The Freethinker

Christian Vs. Secular Music Pt. IV

3:30 PM, Mar. 17, 2006 .. Posted in Deep Thoughts .. 3 comments .. Link

"But it also says that those un-believers can be saved. Does it not?" - BigDog
Red herring. This has nothing to do with the original subject matter.
"How? By Buying their music? So, Are you also going to screen the beliefs of your Landlord? Plumber? Waiter? Fireman? Police Officer? Janitor? Are you going to stop going to ALL movies out of Hollywood? Will you never again pay to go into any museum that features art by non-believers? Will you pay to go to a college that has any non-believing staff? Are you using a computer that was made by a Christian company with Christian parts? Is the phone/cable line that connects you to the internet a "Christian" line?" - BigDog
That is one of THE worst Strawman Fallacies that I have ever seen in my life. Please, look up what a Strawman Fallacy is and restrain yourself from doing this sort of thing again, it's not going to get you anywhere in a debate.
"Are you going to do a background check on every artist you "support" before buying their music? Are you going to follow the money trail past the "Christian" label to make sure they are not in turn funded by secular money?"- BigDog
Why not? We're called to be good stewards, and I think our money should go to those who are honestly making an impact in the world for Christ. I would willingly give up two hundred dollars of my money to bands that are being good stewards of what God has given them, and are making an effective ministry of their music and reaching out to the world for Christ. But here we are, getting off of the subject again.
"Judge the music you listen to by what it IS and not by its source..." -BigDog
What if the source is straight from Hell? How can I not judge the source then? What if a demon possessed person wrote some song, and the words from a demon flowed through the possessed human? How can I NOT judge the source then?
"The message does not become sanctified just because it's from a "Christian" band, nor does it become evil because it's from a "secular" band." -BigDog
No, of course not. But it is sanctified if they are glorifying God. Glorification of the world and all the things in it are simply apart from God. (Refer to the John 2:15 on this entry.)
"A simple perusal of your local "Christian" bookstore should convince you that Christian labels don't equate to Christian content!" -BigDog
Please stop using the red herring fallacy! We are not talking about the content of proffessed Christian music, that has enough discussion for an entirely different debate!
"Please understand that when I said "Perfectly good" What I meant was Biblically Acceptable." -BigDog
Well I believe that you should continue to research on what is Biblically acceptable.
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. Philipians 4:8
There - That is only one of the standards by which we should judge what is Biblically acceptable.
Jesus' First Miracle was just to keep the party going!
RED HERRING. What does this have to do with secular music being perfectly good? Please, am I missing something?
"[Reffering to I Timothy 6:17] All things. If this does not mean secular and Christian music, please tell me what it means." -BigDog
And my response to I Timothy 6:17? You must understand the context. The context is all things to enjoy in Christ! I don't know what translation you used, but this is one I found on the Bible Gateway.
Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. I Timothy 6:17
Also, answer me this. Why would God want us to enjoy everything, which would be including divulging ourselves in our flesh nature, watching every movie on the market, pretty much everything you can define as fun in the world, when God tells us not to love the world?
Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. I John 2:15


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10:35 PM, Mar. 17, 2006

Posted by bigdog

Sorry about all the fallacies. I see them now.

Fallacy Detective right?


Well two can play it that game!

Attacking the artist (Smashmouth) of a song (All Star) Is a genetic fallacy!!!

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/genetic-fallacy.html

Am I wrong?



The Fallacy Detective strikes.

10:54 PM, Mar. 17, 2006

Posted by AnnetteNagle

Yeah, sorry, you're wrong... You can't disconnect a song from a musician. That's like saying Samuel Clemens didn't write Huckleberry Finn just because you don't like him.

You can't disconnect a creator from their creation. Just like you can't disconnect God from the world He created. (No matter how hard you try.)

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12:08 PM, Mar. 18, 2006

Posted by MissSprite

lol!

Yea, I find it really annoying when people will say, "Oh my goodness, I would NEVER want to be homeschooled! I would never have a sociable life!"

But realize, at least I have a bunch of close friends. All of my friends who go to public school make a friend, then they get into a stupid fight, and then they never speak to each other again! (Within the first month or two of knowing each other! ...And yet I'm the one who couldn't possibly have friends?)

And I am sure that a ton of public school kids have really close friends. Don't get me wrong! I just thought it was cool somebody aggred with me. lol!

Well, God Bless!

Sprite

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