Sep. 1, 2006 - New (to me) Child Training Tips

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I recently read Reb Bradley’s book, Child Training Tips ( I heard about it from Mamma1420 - she posted a great summary on her blog). Reading this book opened my eyes to a few ideas I had not thought much about. One that really made an impression was how to tell when a time of discipline is completed.

I have felt for a time that my daughter was angry and perhaps even more rebellious after being disciplined. The problem (as Reb Bradley calls it) is "incomplete chastisement". Discipline should bring about humility, not strengthen rebelliousness.

Over the past few days I have changed the way I discipline a little bit. After receiving a swat I have had her sit until her attitude is adjusted. If she sits too long she forgets what it is all about. But if I time it right and continue to check in with her attitude I can catch her heart turning. I want to get to her heart...not just modify her behavior.

It has been a concern of mine to reach her heart. I don’t want her to obey me and all the while be hardening her heart. We are working on having a cheerful attitude - but at times it seems to elude us.  It is also important that we are "tying strings of fellowship" with our children, or else the discipline won't be as effective and will surely turn their hearts away from us.  We need to be more than drill sargeants, but we do need to be consistent and firm.  There should be no doubt in their minds that we love them.

Another new idea came from www.effectiveparenting.org (I heard about this site from byourlove1 - she has an amazing story to share about her son over on her blog). I learned some new ways to end a time of discipline. I have implemented some of their suggestions this week and find them to be helpful - again, in dealing with HEART issues.

Now after she has sat for a little while (as mentioned above) and appears humbled, I ask her WHY she was disciplined. After that I ask, "WHY is that wrong?" Since she has just memorized Ephesians 6:1, "Children obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right" and also, Exodus 20:12, "Honor you father and your mother" we often discuss these too. When she has directly disobeyed me I ask her WHO she disobeyed....the answer is not only mommy but also God - for He is the one who said that children must obey their parents.

Just thought I’d share. We are still working on behavior quite a bit, it is always exciting to come across new ideas that work.  Perhaps this seems a little over the top...but if she does not learn to obey me happily, how will she obey God?  We all need to learn to humble ourselves and turn to Him, me included.

I know this is a little long...I am just trying to figure some things out.
Stacy

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Sep. 1, 2006 - I'm so glad for you

Posted by mamma1420
I've just gotten a copy of Sheparding A Child's Heart by Tedd Tripp. If you can, get it through your library. I've only read the introduction and a little bit of the first chapter but I think it's going to be good. OR you can wait until I finish reading it and I'll post about it. I've had to put some time between reading child training/rearing books so that I could pray about it, try a few things and pray some more. THings have improved greatly in our home, but we're always learning aren't we?

Great post Stacy
jessica
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Sep. 2, 2006 - That is Great

Posted by byourlove1
I'm so glad to hear you have implemented some of the techniques they use, I think the three questions have helped us the most in getting to the heart, after doing it over and over it really starts to get through on why these things are wrong. I see such a softening on my sons heart, its really unbelievable. Thanks for linking to me, I love when other people check out my blog and I especially love to be able to share something that I think could change peoples lives-I know how much I love to learn from others. Please keep my updated, I really want to know what you think about the CDS and how this approach works for your family.

Angela
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Sep. 2, 2006 - Child training

Posted by Bahamahomeschooler
thanks for the book tip. I think I will read that one. My fav's are Train Up a Child by Micheal and Debi Pearl and Keeping the Heart of your Child by steve and teri Maxwell. Both are great reads. I re-read them often.
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Sep. 2, 2006 - by the way

Posted by Bahamahomeschooler
about the full table my hubby wants 4 more so we have to buy a new table. I said we will need a new house to fit the table! he's working on that. Praying hard.
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Sep. 3, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by lindafay
Yes, yes! Outward behavior is NOT enough. We must reach the heart. I think it is so important to make sure the discipline does not end with an angry heart. It takes longer sessions sometimes, patience and gentle persuasion, but it is so worth it. We don't want to raise bitter, angry outward compliant children. Great thoughts you posted here.

blessings,
linda
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Sep. 3, 2006 - Great thoughts

Posted by reformingmama
After I read your post I thought, "THIS is why I like this blogging thing so much. All these like-minded mothers striving for the same things I am striving for with my own children." What a great point you made about reaching their hearts. And I don't think it's over the top at all to say that if our children don't learn to cheerfully obey us, how will they obey God? Such a huge responsibility we have, huh? And yet, God equips us!!! :)
Blessings to you, Stacy.
~Stacy
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Sep. 3, 2006 - HI

Posted by bubbebobbie
I discovered a few things with my children. 1st, childhood is fleeting. Because of this there are moments when hearts are very opened to growth and some when like us they are in winter hibernation. Knowing the right season lets you prepare for it and enjoy it. 2nd) 5-7 is the time when physical discipline is most effective, if you discipline the attitude actions don't follow. If I am angry I should have done something at least three instances ago. Being too busy to have caught the first one is wrong on my part not theirs. Teaching them to respond to discipline as God wants us to respond to His discipline is the goal; with gratitude and wisdom. 3rd, my pastor's wife (at the time) taught me a saying my children still say and have taught to their children to repeat as well. This is the response "QUICKLY I WILL DO WHAT YOU ASK ME TO DO, CHEERFULLY, BECAUSE I LOVE YOU." As they learned this, they realized stomping their feet is not a cheerful response, putting it off is not quickly and an act of defiance is not loving. They also would giggle saying it at times which lightened the mood and the task. 4th) there should never be correction without a scripture to back it up. Why does this matter? Well if I have to look for a scripture, I will be calm before I correct them, they will be open to the correction and we both will know the goal is being right with God. 5th) God is faithful to His Word, He will see us all to completion even on the days when we feel like total failures. And lastly, they must know the consequences of their actions before they are corrected. Mine knew one action equaled one swat. One for the action plus one for lying about it(because one child seems to always need to test that first :) plus one for not excepting it properly (crying is expected and acceptable, screaming is disobedience) and scriptural references before the spanking and hugs after. We are hoping to grow Disciples of Christ not robots that obey for obedience sake, or hard hearted exasperated children.

thanks for the note on my blog, it is amazing. The first time your child looks you in the eye is such a milestone. When they tower over you is another and when they hold heir own child in their arms...there is nothing like it!
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