Saturday, September 15, 2007

Of fairness: For Nicole

Nicole commented about it being unfair Keegan should be able to drop his nap at a younger age than his big sister Keianna.

Controversy isn't one of the big goals of this blog, and usually I'd just let such a comment slide, but this one intrigued me, and prompts an interesting discussion.    I don't know you, Nicole, so I'm not sure whether you have children of your own, or how you might handle children with different needs who are close in age, but I'll share some thoughts behind why we did things this way: 


I’ll admit I’d have much preferred Keegan require the same amount of sleep the girls have at his age, but he’s always needed less. It wouldn’t have been "fair" to have forced Keianna to drop her nap months ago (when she really needed it) just so that she could be first. Neither would it have been "fair" to continue to expect a little guy who wasn’t tired to lie in bed every day for several extra hours when his body didn’t need sleep, just because he’s younger than the sister who does need a nap. As it is, I had Keianna drop hers a bit earlier (and pushed Keegan later) than I would have otherwise done, simply because I didn’t want Keegan dropping his before ‘Anna.


Every child is a little different. Sleep isn’t something we have the children do as penance, or that we require because of their age.  We sleep to get the rest our bodies need! There are days (rare) that I’ll suggest my seven year old Kaira take a nap (or sometimes she suggests it herself). I don’t require all the younger ones nap just because Kaira is a bit run-down.


Likewise, it would be unreasonable to have weighed the food that Kendra ate at age three, and insist that Keianna eat exactly the same proportions.  While all the children are healthy and eat well, they have different metabolisms and different builds. Keianna would have a perpetual stomachache if we required she eat the amount Kendra did at her age.


True justice and fairness isn’t always exact equality in the minor details. (In fact often forcing them into cookie-cutter molds is the most unfair thing we could do!) Our desire is to do what is best and right for each child’s unique needs within the family context.


Children who know that they are all loved equally will rejoice in another’s privilege (and Keianna is more excited about Keegan doing quiet play than Keegan is.)


I try not to view my children as ages but as individuals. (Which is reason number 126 that we homeschool.)


(And just because we Prairiefrogs do it one way, doesn’t mean that’s the only way. Families don’t fit into formula’s any more than do children within a family.) 


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Saturday, September 15, 2007 - quiet play fairness

Posted by Anonymous
I appreciate your comments, and agree 100%. I hope Nicole accepts your answer in the loving and teaching spirit that I know you intend it. Others might also be questioning your fairness in this matter, and it is important for people to understand your thought processes in matters like this.
Grumpy Dave
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Saturday, September 15, 2007 - what a reaction!

Posted by Nicole Snitselaar
I can't believe you reacted so strongly at my remark! :-)
I won't be able to discuss it with you , because I speak french and it isn't as easy for me as for you!!
But I was a little girl in a large family and sometimes that kind of thing can come up later...much later...
It is happening in a family I know and it has been coming out when this relative was over 40 years old....
Happily every one doesn't react the same way!!

Any way I wrote my remark not at all with negativ thoughts but more as a question....
Did not expect it would prick you so!!!
I am sorry!

You can get to know me by visiting my blog:

http://comptines.over-blog.com

Yes I am a mother, I have children, I had 5 in 5 years...
The eldest is now 27 and the three younger ones are 22 in a month !
I am lucky to have 5 very sweet and nice Children,(three girls and two boys) but I won't say I am responsible of the way they are, I did my best but God blessed us and I am really thankfull!

I like to visit your blog because you put alot of energy in all you do and you are a loving mother ! I find your children ever so sweet!
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Saturday, September 15, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Dell
Thanks for replying Nicole! You speak English beautifully! (I just hopped over to your blog, but was only able to enjoy the pictures. Regrettably, I do not speak your lovely language.) The picture of your table did make me hungry for cucumbers though! *laugh* I am so wishing I could read the French. Especially regarding your "little voyage" (Petit Voyage). The children in that photograph are adorable!

I wasn't actually offended by your remark, but thought it was interesting how different perceptions can be. It is also interesting that in trying to not be "unfair" to Keegan (by making him nap when not tired), many would think I'm being unfair to Keianna... (Although my heart is to be loving and fair to both children.)

As you know (probably better than I do--because yours are grown and mine are still tiny), it is hard to make the right and most fair decision. Sometimes we just make the best decision we can with what we know.

I love your remarks on that comment above, that you did your best and God blessed it. That is my prayer as well. I fail in so many ways daily. The joy on my children's faces is a reflection of God's faithfulness, not my own doing.

I would love to be able to hear more about how you did things. You mentioned that your three younger children will be 22 next month! They are triplets then! (And here I wondered if you had ever had any close in age--you must have chucked at that question!) How did you handle it when one of them was ready for something new or more advanced in an area than the others? (I'm not asking to be difficult, but sincerely interested.)

I would be grateful for any prayers as we seek to tend our children.


I’m sorry my reply came across as prickly. :(

Please forgive me for taking your comment in the wrong light.

Blessings,
Dell
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Sunday, September 16, 2007 - Thank you for your lovely answer!

Posted by Nicole
The last thing I wanted was to upset someone on the net...But it is so easy to read the way we want to read it, sometimes not in the same spirit!
Yes, I laughed about you wandering about my experience with children, but I laughed even more when I went on to my blog, looking at it with the eyes of someone who might not understand french....It seemed very hermetic to me, exept the photos!
In fact I am a song writer, composer, singer and translator, all this specially for young children. My job is the one of a Kinder garten teacher...but I hardly worked!
On the left side you find my records and songs.
I present my writtings on the right. Because now I want to write stories! So the pengouin is the drawing of my firts book to be published!
In fact it is a blog on my work.

It would be too long to tell you all about bringing up my kids. I react more by instinct then by thinking a lot!
I believe in mile stones, little or big events that we celebrate...or that we achieve.
I think I am more concerned about feelings then needs...That a child is unique and not part of a group (you understand why!!I also refuse concerts because I want a small number of childrens with whom I can have an interaction I want them to feel recognised as a person)

The same way children do not go to bed all at the same time : it depends on there status, not on there needs!(in my idea!)

A quiet time is more for the parents needs then the child! (our friends thought we were mad to ask this on sundays! But we have to think of ourselves too!)
I hated it when people would give one sheet to the three (at sunday school) or one birthday card for the three...They are individuals!
I remember sending one card for the birthday of my two nieces , born a day a part with three years difference! The next year the triplets had each there own card!!
I always have made three cakes even for there first year...a rather pathetic cake...I was so exhausted and over booked!

I tried so hard to treat them as individuals....I always made the effort to call them by there name and not "the triplets".
One day I discovered that when I called out one name...the three arrived! In fact they believed they were called: PascalCarolkersty...

So my reaction was feeling for your daughter who did not have her own special achievment, she has to share it, her the big sister, with her younger brother!( again it was with my own storie and not to judge!)

Yes it would be nice to be able to talk about all this...looking back I feel...waouh!!what an adventure! I finally got to the other side!
and the picture on the cucumbers was one of our family meals with two additions...We are ever so greatfull for these precious moments together!
With all my friendship send over the seas...
Nicole
I did my best for the spelling...please excuse me for the mistakes!

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Monday, October 1, 2007 - Hi, Dell

Posted by Lori
Christopher quit his nap at 2 yrs and 4 months. I was in denial for a long time, as he was the best napper/sleeper ever, but when it got to the point when I would practically force him to sleep (if that is possible) for even a short time, he could not sleep at night until about 9pm or so, and that was without crying/talking/getting out of bed, I figured he was over it! I really mourned it, but it's actually nicer when I don't have to synchronize both children's naps, and quiet time happens whenever Natalie needs to sleep. (: (the inevitable silver lining).

Anyway, what do you do for quiet time? What are your quiet time rules, or is there a link I'm missing...

I hope you don't mind, but I added you as a friend--I always enjoy your blog.

Warmly,
Lori
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