Taking Dominion, One Day At A Time
January 12, 2007
Clarification on False Assumptions

Posted in Dominion Living

Many of you have made false assumptions about me.  And many of your comments have been hurtful and completely unsubstantiated.  I would like to set the record straight.
 
Just because I advocate following the Proverbs 31 model does not mean:
 
1) That you won't have "one of those days".  In fact I said as much in my original post (paragraph 5).
 
2) That I "rip my pastor over dinner".
 
3) That I work when I should be sitting at the Savior's feet (or my husband's or my children's for that matter).
 
4) That I don't enjoy my children.
 
5) That I rely on my own strength rather than Christ's.
 
6) That I'm proud and self-righteous.  Just because I feel strongly about it doesn't mean I'm proud and self-righteous.  How would you like to be called proud and self-righteous for the beliefs you hold dear? 
 
7) That I'm ruining my health.  I'm exhausted because I'm pregnant, not because I work hard. I would be exhausted sitting in a chair all day too.
 
8) That I have a "cold hard take on life".
 
9) That I'm a "fun hater".
 
10) That I treat my children as "slaves".
 
11) That I lack "love and grace".
 
12) That my husband and I don't have "great sex".
 
13) That my husband and I have a "sterile view of life".
 
14) That my husband has a need for "power trips". (Is obedience really only for dogs? If you truly believe that, I would hate to see your children.)
 
15) That my children have to be "helpful to their mother every single moment".
 
16) That I think that those with debilitating diseases should be able to do as much as those without. I made this point in my original post.  In fact I specifically used the word "healthy" to prevent this type of accusation (paragraph 7).
 
17) That I thought Crystal was a "slacker". Paragraph 3 clearly stated that I wasn't addressing Crystal at all.  I even mentioned that those with severe nausea (Crystal) and debilitating diseases might have a different standard and offered what I thought might be helpful suggestions (paragraph 9).
 
If y'all had read my original post more carefully, instead of jumping to conclusions, a lot of this could have been avoided.  I chose my words carefully.
 
A few last comments:

My comment about Deuteronomy 6 WAS in context, Mrs. T.  You just missed it.  The point of the passage is that we teach our children God's command in the "milieu," which means in the context of living.  While we're sitting, standing, walking, lying down, rising up and even while we're cleaning.  I teach God's commands to my children all day long in the context of daily living, which includes cleaning.
 
The use of the terms "asset" and "liability" are figures of speech.  It is an analogy we use to describe a certain aspect of childrearing.  It does not mean that we have reduced our precious blessings to numbers on an accounting ledger.  How ridiculous.

I would be careful to judge a position by it's response.  Just because people get all riled up and sling dirt, it doesn't make the position false.  The liberals do that all the time.
 
Regarding the unsaved reading my blog, I would hope they would find my words and deeds to be beyond reproach.

"In all things show yourself to be an example of good deeds, with purity of doctrine, dignified, sound in speech which is beyond reproach, so that the opponent will be put to shame, having nothing bad to say about us." Titus 2:7-9

I hope this helps clarify my position a bit more.

Tina

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January 12, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous


It's helpful to see it all typed out like that, huh?



Isn't it crazy that all those nasty comments, false assumptions, sarcastic remarks, and flat-out insults were meant to tell you to be more charitable?



???



Teriand6


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January 12, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous


I was asking questions/commenting for clarification, not to sling mud. If I don't ask, I don't know. I did not state that you children have to be "helpful to their mother every single moment". I asked. Not everyone who questions you is being mean.
And I still am concerned about your health.
Lisa


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January 13, 2007 - Encouragement

Posted by Anonymous


Hello Tina,

I'm sorry you've had such a fuss lately over your comments on Crystal's post (I found your blog from that). I only have one child (almost 2 yr old son), so I am still learning how best to do everything, and changing as I learn. It took me a while to adjust to having a baby, but I know I didn't do my best for probably a year after my son was born, and I sometimes used him as my excuse for not getting much done. I am doing pretty good now, but I wanted to let you know that you got me thinking about doing my best and I am inspired to always try to do better in the future. Thank you for your courage to say something that others may not agree with.

Kristina


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January 13, 2007 - To Encourage You

Posted by Anonymous


Hi Tina,

Thank you for your recent posts on housekeeping. My mother and I have been discussing the posts at Biblical Womanhood and your related posts.We were encouraged by your writing and thankful that you had the courage to hold women to a higher (and more Biblical) standard. It is easy to just tell each other, "You're okay, I'm okay," when what we really need is a dose of hard truth! Thank you for doing that, and I'm so sorry that you've been attacked for it. Please know that there are two more ladies here that have been challenged and helped by your words! God bless you and your family.

-Michelle


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January 13, 2007 - Welcome to blogging

Posted by Anonymous


I found that blogging is a lot like high school. One blogger can be saying the exact same thing as another in exactly the same tone, but one blogger is ostracized and the other blogger (due to popularity) praised. One of the enigmas of blogging, I guess.

Welcome to the wonderful world of gentle Biblical womanhood blogging. This is exactly why I stopped. Too much fuss. My advice, thicken your skin.


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January 13, 2007 - hi

Posted by brooke30


I just wanted you to know that I thought the attacking comments were completely uncalled for. I didn't post necessarily agreeing nor disagreeing with you - I saw both sides. But I did want you to know that I thought the attacks were ungodly and unharmonious and ungracious.


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January 14, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Joanne


Tina ~
Thanks for posting this. In part because my original comment started this whole debate and also because from what I have seen, we are in agreement here, I have felt that all the dirt was being slung my way too! And yes, it did hurt. Still does. And part of that hurt was due to the fact that while we were called upon to defend things that we hold dear or believe in as being right, even our doing so became a matter of ridicule and malicious accusation. It was encouraging to me to read the other comments left here by some of your readers saying how you have encouraged them.
In a private comment I did apologize to Crystal because in review, my original comment was more of an attack than I thought. I hadn't meant it as a personal attack on her and said so.
I'd also like to apologize to you for bringing all these attacks against you too. I'm very thankful for not having a blog right now! However, I don't like to see people who have stepped in to support something I have said becoming the focus of all the blame and attack either, and I'm sorry you had to be that person.
And lastly, in my apology, I did not retract what I said - there is a definite problem among young women today - and I fear among older women too - that excuses our actions simply by saying we're young mothers etc. Thanks for being an example of a wife and mother who is taking her duties as wife/mother and keeper of the home seriously. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who feels this way!


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January 14, 2007 - Responses

Posted by Genesis1x28


Teriand6,
I hadn't thought of it in those terms. That is crazy!

Kristina,
I'm glad my post was helpful. Thanks for taking the time to let me know. It means a lot.

Michelle (and mom),
Thanks for your comments. I'm glad to know that there are more ladies out there that want to see a higher standard. God Bless!

Joanne,
I'm glad to know the recent comments encouraged you. I know they did me. You don't need to apologize. While it is true that part of my motivation was to jump in and encourage you (having been there before myself), I still would have jumped in the fire alone, so don't blame yourself! What I said needed to be said and I would say it again, even knowing how badly I would be attacked.

Thanks for encouraging me along the way.

Tina


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January 14, 2007 - Response to Lisa

Posted by Genesis1x28


Lisa,

I didn't accuse *you* of slinging mud. I just stated that mud had been slung. I'm sorry you felt that way.

I'm glad you clarified that your questions were sincere because, to be honest, that's not how I interpreted them. By asking those questions, it felt as if you were assuming the absolute worst about me. Just because my children help doesn't mean they don't ever play. And just because I work hard doesn't mean I don't take care of my health.

But now that you've clarified that you were sincere, I will be happy to clarify.

As I mentioned in this post, I'm tired because I'm pregnant, not because I work too hard. I would be just as tired sitting in a chair. We eat very healthy and take our ailments seriously. We don't let anything become chronic. We immediately look for the cause of every ailment and treat it.

I'm really not running myself into the ground. I'm just working hard. I get plenty of rest on the Sabbath.

"Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work; but the seventh day is a sabbath unto Jehovah, thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work..." Exodus 20:9-10a

You said, "God created our bodies with needs for rest and relaxation sometimes too, and it doesn't pay to ignore the way He made us." I think the fourth commandment IS his blueprint for work vs. rest and relaxation.

Regarding my comment that "play-help isn't helpful," what I meant is that when they ARE helping, they need to truly help. It is only helpful if the work is completed in the same manner as my husabnd and I would have done it. But if they are playing, they are welcome to pretend that they are helping (cooking, cleaning, etc.). I love to see my chidren pretending to be dad or mom. It's adorable!

So, our children DO play, but not without guidelines or restraint. We do not allow our children to act in a way that we would consider "folly". Since birth we have trained and shaped our children's interests and play-time. We have taught them what is mature and what is silly and ridiculous. You've heard it said, "someone is doing the brainwashing, it's just a matter of who". Well, we do the brainwashing around here. Our children play, but they play in a more mature and controlled way than your average child (most of whom we would consider wild and out-of-control).

My husband wants me to make the point that Scripture never commands that we provide playtime for our children. Every child naturally gets playtime because they don't have the faculties to work full-time. But it's not something we need to "foster". He compares it to loving ourselves. The Bible never commands us to love ourselves because, by nature, everyone does. When God commands us to "love our neighbors as ourselves" it presupposes that everyone loves himself. Both are something that come naturally and therefore don't need to be fostered. My husband just laughed and said, "this also applies to working too hard." The Bible doesn't forbid us from working too hard because by nature we are self-preserving. As I'm writing this I am realizing that this is a much bigger and important issue. I will devote a whole post to this issue here soon.

Anyhow, I didn't mean to lump you in with the nasty commenters. It just wasn't clear to me that your questions were sincere.

Tina


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January 14, 2007 - A Question

Posted by opheliag


about Proverbs 31 - Your post caused me to reread this passage, and I have a question about verse 20. "She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy." I have been looking for ideas for charity work that I can do while keeping up the house and raising three small children. Do you have any ideas that you have found fit in with your schedule?

Edited by opheliag on January 14, 2007 at 9:35 PM


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January 15, 2007 - wow

Posted by momofsix


I am soo sorry that some bloggers are giving you a hard time. I hope that there will be more future bloggers to be encouraged by your insights on your blogs. Regardless of whether any of them disagree, they should be polite and respectful. I am so sorry about that. Blogging is meant to encourage one another, and get great ideas and helps on this homeschool journey. Blessings to you, sister in Christ.


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January 16, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous


Thanks, Tina! Very clearly put.

Lisa


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