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Tuesday, September 25, 2007
Discussion - Chapters 13-15

Posted in Self-Raised by E.D.E.N Southworth

Hello again, ladies!

I apologize for the tardy post. We are into the book, but boy has life gotten busy. Has it for you too? Sometimes I think summer is the busiest time of the year, but then September starts and I think that is! :+) Anyway, here are my thoughts.

So we find Claudia making an interesting decision - she decides to write her father for help and then "...get him to bring about her introduction to teh Earl of Hurstmonceux's family and her recognition by their circle. This course, she thought, would secure her personal safety and her social position..." Would this have been your first thought? Don't you find it odd that even when her very life is threatened that she seeks to secure her social position?! I was dumbfounded by this. What would you have done in her place?

"She had sold her birthright and got not even the "mess of pottage," but the cup of poison." says Southworth. Do we feel for her?

Poor Ailsie - murdered. Now the show is beginning! Poor poor Katie! She tried so much to tell Claudia what she heard and Claudia did not have the time. Now we don't know if Katie is even alive! This is getting pretty suspenseful! I feel so badly for Katie though - she was trying to warn her mistress and she was discovered. I hope she is OK!

Now we switch scenes back to Ishmael's office. There is so much we discover all at once in this chapter! And Ishmael and the Judge too! The last letter surprised me the most! Now we meet the countess again. I wonder what she will be like, don't you? She is one intriguing person to me. At least we know Claudia is safe for now. Don't you wonder what is going on in Ishmael's head?

In the midst of the shipwreck - Ishmael is even keeping his word. I thought about the Titanic where real men stayed behind and the women and children went first. Ishmael made me think of this. Keeping his word even when they gave him back his promise. So interesting! How many men would live this out today? Do we know any Ishmaels in our lives?

Oh, good dear Jem Morris - jumping in to die with Ismael. What a beautiful picture of sacrifice for those you love. So, do you think Ishmael dies here? :+)

So for next week we will read Chapters 16-18. There are a lot of pages to read so let me know if you will need two weeks to get it done. 

So how has your new year (or continuation) gone so far? Ours has been positive, but it is hard to get it all done, isn't it?  I look forward to hearing from you!


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Thursday, September 27, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by thisworldisnotmyhome

Life has swamped me too...I must catch up on reading...being pregnant, and starting up new ministries at church sure takes a lot out of you....catch up with you all when I catch up...lol.

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Sunday, September 30, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by BeccaBeard

I think that if I had been Claudia, I also would have contacted Vincent's father. For the same reasons Claudia wanted to. If I found myself in that situation, I would have wanted to distance myself from the other two in EVERY way possible. Socially, morally, physically......kind of like taking a shower to get rid of the scum. Darin and I feel sorry for her if she is truly repentant. But if she ever gets out of this and starts seeking for titles again, or even hints at it before the mess is cleared up, we just couldn't feel sorry for her. But it seems to us that she can't not be truly repentant of her past actions. She grew up surrounded by the best influences and teaching, which she chose to reject. Now is her opportunity to realize the truth of all she rejected and get back on the right track. (fingers crossed!)

Jem is good to Ishmael, but it seems that Southworth is leaving him out of the story a lot!

Looking forward to the next chapters.....

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Tuesday, October 2, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by andijeane

I have to reread these chapters! I read them right away because I knew I would be busy, but now I don't remember everything well enough to contribute to the discussion. :-)

BeccaBeard: I read most of the free online version of "Ishmael" before I bought the Lamplighter version, and it was more detailed. The relationship between Ishmael and Jem was described in much greater detail in the original. I would guess that it might be the same with "Self-Raised."

I'll try to get these chapters read again before the next discussion!

~Andrea

Edited by andijeane on Oct. 2, 2007 at 7:46 PM

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