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• Oct. 17, 2008 - Infant baptism vs. Voluntary baptism

Arya is not here this week,so she asked me to post this;)

This is defiantly a controversial subject, and I want to point out that we will need to show a lot of respect for one another's opinions in this discussion. My question for you this week is: Which do you think is the biblical way, if not both? Why do you think one way or the other? Your denomination may do either voluntary or infant baptism, but you might not know why your family and you believes in one or the other. Take the time this week to find out, and come back and share your thoughts on this subject. Please provide verses to back up your conclusions. Thanks! ~Arya~

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• Oct. 17, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by alizona

Yes, I agree that this a very controversial subject. Many have given their lives in the past because of this divisive issue. The truth divides, and many people become defensive and feel like they are under personal attack if someone points out the error of their beliefs. I do not want anyone to take this personally. I am just telling the truth here.

Many people believe that infant baptism does something for the child -- that it is a part of salvation. But looking to the Bible, the truth becomes very clear. There is not one verse in the entire Bible that supports infant baptism. It is not even addressed once. You will not find it, no matter how many times you read through the Bible.

On the other hand, "voluntary" (or even more in line with scripture, "believers") baptism is strongly supported and taught throughout the New Testament. Just take a look at these verses:

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:... (Acts 2:41); But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. (Acts 8:12); And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. (Acts 8:36-37); ...and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized. (Acts 18:8)

To follow the thought all the way through, it is obvious that infants are not even able to believe the gospel. Therefore, infant baptism can be shown to be unscriptural and in error. It does nothing.

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• Oct. 18, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by discussionswpurpose

I agree with you. It is not supported in the bible.I think it is nice to get your child dedicated,but I don't agree that that will have any part in there salvation if you get them baptized when they are infants.
Rebecca

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• Oct. 20, 2008 - Greetings all

Posted by MaidenCapitolaBallot

First off,we have people in our church who disagree with our views on this, so if you disagree I hold nothing against you, I am simply going to state my beliefs on this matter, as I see them according to my study of God's Word.
I believe baptisum AFTER Salvation is the Biblical way. Now for the hard part, the why. :D
Baptism is an outward sign of salvation, how can a baby be baptised if it is too young to know what sin is, let alone that it is a sinner? Baptising a baby is giving the parents a false sense of sucurity. Examples of outward signs f baptsim can be found in Acts 8:36 and 10:47.
It is an outward showing of what happened inwardly. As in, when we are saved we are dying to ourselves and being raised in God, the baptism shows this, Romans 6:3. It also is a reminder of Jesus death and resurection. Romans 6:4, also showing our newness of life, (Same verse). It is to remind us we are dead to sin and alive to God Romans 6:11.
Therefore how can one baptise babies when a baby has yet to be saved, it does understand these things.
These are my views, if anyone would like to talk farther with me on the matter I would be more then happy to :D
Heather

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• Nov. 1, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by bernedette

the baptizing of the infants is extremely important.

Hence this:
John 3

5 Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

'born again' meaning 'baptized'. Baptizing an infant with holy water in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit with the sign of the cross is extremely important. To be 'born again' simply means to enter into a Christian life with Christ. A 'new' life. Not literally reincarnation. We are all born with Original Sin and baptism cleanses us of that sin. It is also important for our salvation. Since the verse says, "...can not enter into the kingdom of God..."

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• Nov. 1, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous

Bernedette,

Where does it say in the Bible that born again=baptism?

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