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Yes Ma'am, No Ma'am

8:40 PM, Monday, May 7, 2007 .. Posted in Living Learning Moments, A Dixon Home Education .. 14 comments .. Link
    I am officially weary and worn of hearing other answers, replies of protest and/or explanations when I speak to our children. Or when their Dad speaks to them. Or when their older sibs speak to them.
    There, I said it. Our children back-talk. Yeah, not so unbelieveable. I just try *not* to complain on my blog, because, well, it's depressing. I know, because I had a friend who used to complain *frequently*, and it always made me want to complain if I didn't keep my guard.
But, I digress...
    The back-talking - it is getting more and more frequent, and it is something we are no longer messing around with.
That's what I told them, too.
    So, the official answer in the Dixon house to Dad and Mom, older brother and sisters is:
"Yes, sir." or
"No, sir." or
"Yes, Ma'am." or
"No, Ma'am"
No more complaining, asking someone else to do your chores, sour looks, stomping, grouchy attitudes, eye rolling... NADA. Nothing. Zilch. They will reply accordingly, and then they will retrain their hearts and minds to not think about the request. They will just do it, without thinking about it.
 
    Now, before I get some comment about how I am a controlling Nazi Mom who will not even allow my poor, unsocialized, homeschooled children to think on their own, let me say this: NOT.
 
    My children are way too smart for their own britches, so they need to be under control or they will be the know-it-all, geeky, annoying, homeschooled children all too soon. I prefer well-mannered, well-spoken, self-controlled children who are a blessing and joy to be around - well, don't you?
 
    This is part of the reason I know that God has allowed us to keep our children home to educate them. Maybe this is most of the reason, actually. He desires that we train our children up in Him first. He is to be first in our finances and our days... and in our home education also.
    I think I stated in an earlier post... or maybe it was on my homestead blog... that I would rather have children whose hearts seek God than children who are geniuses. I would rather train children to love their families than to train them in the latest cultural trends.
    I would rather them know the Bible in its entirety than what sports team is best in whatever rankings or who's who on the big screen. Silly us, I know.
 
    So, with our daily Bible reading, a time of worship singing and learning scriptures from For Instructions in Righteousness, we should be back on track in no. time. flat.  I hope.

Jacque

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Hey!

9:17 PM, Monday, May 7, 2007 .. Posted by mh530
Have you named your little girl yet?!?!?!I can't wait to hear the name!!!So how are you?I am fine.But I have to go.Buh-Bye
Megan

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9:17 PM, Monday, May 7, 2007 .. Posted by totustuus
Backtalking is something that I used to be really bad at...I knew that I could weasel out of chores with my mom. But, eventually, my dad just told me that I didn't have a choice on whether I was going to obey or not - but that I DID have a choice on my attitude. I don't have so much of a problem with it now, though. My main problem is obeying quickly. I'll be sitting in my room doing homework and Mom will call me and tell me to hang the laundry. My typical response will be, "Yes, Mother". But then I'll just sit there for another 10 minutes until she reminds me again...

There's always something that the devil takes advantage of. Once I've conquered something, he'll hand me another struggle!!! That's why I'm so thankful that we can cover EVERYTHING in prayer...

Your family's in my prayers!! I'm so glad to see other faithful parents doing their best to train their children in the fear of the Lord. I hope to be doing that someday. And I'm thankful for the examples that I have in people like you. :-)

Regards,
Sylvia

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11:36 PM, Monday, May 7, 2007 .. Posted by MamaMahnken
Well, if you are a mean nazi mama, then I must be too, because my 4 and 3 year old are working on this too, and as soon as the baby learns to talk, I hope to hear "yes, ma'am from him too! I want to train my kids in obedience as well as manners, and answering that way works for both of course. I have explained to my oldest DD that I don't want to hear "but I was just..." when I ask her to do or not do something, I just want her to obey. And likewise, when I am calling one of them (which I try not to do too often, because I think yelling through the house sounds rude too, but sometimes when I'm up to my elbows in dirty diaper or something it can't be helped) I don't want to hear "huh?" or even "what?" I would like to hear "yes Mama/ma'am?" etc. I hope since my kiddos are so young, this will just be second nature to them someday...

Blessings to your family during this time of growth! Like someone else mentioned it can be done. Growing up, the only words ever spoken in our house were sarcastic. When I became a Christian I realized pretty early on that sarcasm isn't very edifying, but to correct it I pretty much had to literally bite my tongue when I felt a comment coming on, because it was pretty certain to be sarcastic. I am not exaggerating when I say that I didn't speak at all for quite some time! But praise God who grants us new life, that this is something I no longer struggle with (though there are still many other things He is working on in me, of course!) Anyways, sorry for the long wordy comment, just wanted to add my 2 cents worht. I think you have great kids, I alwasy enjoy reading and am encouraged by Jocelyn's blog, and your Lucie is too cute! Veronica

I hear ya!!

1:40 PM, Tuesday, May 8, 2007 .. Posted by Angelheart
Wow do I ever hear ya on this topic. Just recently my older daughter I noticed has been taken the liberties where I was allowing holes . She is dragging me everywhere with friends etc... The other Friday I told her to do her chores. She did not do them. I called her down and asked her to do them. She rolled her eyes and said later. She did not do them. Well this week she is sobbing a long road because mommy isnt driving her anywhere. She is stuck at home. I know that it was something I slacked on. When was it I left it pass. I am not sure. Its really hard to change a behavior back to the good. Good luck.

Nikki

LOL Sylvia-

7:58 PM, Tuesday, May 8, 2007 .. Posted by JacqueDixonSoulRestES
Yes, that sounds like me.
Our children can attest to the many times they have heard "You are the only one who can change your attitude."

And obeying quickly is important because if you have to be told more than once, you are disobeying each time you don't do it.

Anyway, I am glad you brought those up because they are two good points that we deal with too.
( ;
Mrs. Dixon


The "This mom's a nazi" Posts Have Started Again...

8:55 PM, Tuesday, May 8, 2007 .. Posted by JacqueDixonSoulRestES
But, I've already been down this road!

Here is a little more of why I wrote this post, my comment to unschoolers at blogspot:
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Pretty much, the reason *I* wrote that part that you commented on, is the same reason you don't want your children asking WHY? when they are running to the street after their ball and a car is coming or your toddler touching a hot pan when you say STOP or whatever. Why would *anyone* want a smart-mouthed, know-it-all child??

Besides, respectful children (who are somewhat hard to find anymore) don't back-talk their parents just because they think their opinion is more important. Allowing that just allows children to grow into arrogant adults.

Our children are well-read and well- spoken. I don't want their bad habits of back-talking to allow them to think that they can say whatever they want. And, when was the last time a child *really* thought before they back-talked their parent???

If people who come unglued at a post like this would do a little further searching into the author's training, they would find out the truth, like, I know my older children could run this household if I were dead... without me. They already think for themselves. Back-talking shows *lack of* thinking.

It isn't about teaching your children to not think, it's about teaching your child to do something they have already been taught. To do what they are told by the people who protect and provide for them. I could understand your outrage if I was telling them to set each other on fire, but c'mon.

You have military background? And what happens when a private is told to do something and he has a better idea? Sometimes, if you don't obey immediately, you die. period. Childish habits don't just go away by themselves. Let's save our children a lot of heartache and teach them to obey what they are told without the back-talk.

And, I agree with Alesandra... don't leave the COH. The world is made up of all different shapes of pegs. We can all teach each other something.
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And, our daughters have blogs you can check out. Whether you agree with what they think or not, surely you can tell they think for themselves!

Jacque

I post this as my 3yo wakes up his 1yo brother (though he knows he isn't supposed to). Boy, is it important for children to do what they are told when they are told, without questioning it. UGH!!


ditto!

11:10 PM, Tuesday, May 8, 2007 .. Posted by BeccaBeard
we are working on the same issue - mostly with our oldest, who likes to argue with my husband and me when we are giving him a "talking-to." ;-) So today he lost his PRIVILEGE to speak. It is a privilege - everything we do is a privilege and blessing from God and when it is abused, we lose it! How's that for a control-freak, Nazi mom? LOL!!!!!

thanks for visiting my blog!

Love,
Becca

Nazi Moms?

11:30 PM, Tuesday, May 8, 2007 .. Posted by unschooler
As if telling your kids to blindly obey isn't enough...referring to yourselves as Nazi Moms and posting about how your child has lost the privelege to speak is yet another wonderful thing I have picked up from y'all. Can it get any worse?

I bet Hitler enjoyed the thought of having scores of children saying Yes Sir. The Nazi ---.

Explicitives removed on edit -jsd

Edited by JacqueDixonSoulRestES on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 9:13 PM

Just incase unschooler stops by here again...

5:06 AM, Wednesday, May 9, 2007 .. Posted by JacqueDixonSoulRestES
I won't be commenting anymore on your blog (it will just never end!)... but, as far as *Jesus would be angry* because I said "before anyone calls me nazi-mom"....
No disrespect, but all I can say is LOL. Seriously. Jesus would be angry?
Jesus was angry at sin.
Jesus was angry at sin.
I was cautioning the readers... *those* who might think I am way outta line doing what Jesus expects us to do... train our children to obey as unto His father, as expected in His Word.
Jesus was angry at sin.
No, He would not be angry. I meant no malice or mockery. I want those who post blogs like yours to look at the facts, not get all emotionally wordy about a parent who is training wonderful children who are an asset to society, not a detriment.
I will leave you with what I asked on your blog:
Who wants smart-alec, mouthy children?
At all?
I would rather have a respectful child who does what he's told than an arrogant, smart-mouth free-thinker.

You cannot LEARN respect by disrespecting.
And, you cannot EARN respect by being disrespectful.

Most children find that out when they get fired or expelled.

They need to be trained to live in an adult world, not as immature kiddies forever.

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10:17 AM, Wednesday, May 9, 2007 .. Posted by Anonymous
I would absolutely rather have children who love the Lord and obey His commands before they are geniuses anyday.

Good stuff.

Lindsey @ enjoythejourney

Agree to disagree

2:48 PM, Thursday, May 10, 2007 .. Posted by unschooler
I'll raise a genuis...y'all can raise obedient children.

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3:42 PM, Thursday, May 10, 2007 .. Posted by Dawn
//I would rather have a respectful child who does what he's told than an arrogant, smart-mouth free-thinker.//

This is a false dichotomy. We can do better for our kids by limiting them with either/or thinking.

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3:44 PM, Thursday, May 10, 2007 .. Posted by Dawn
That should read, 'We can do better for our kids THEN by limiting them with either/or thinking.



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9:36 PM, Monday, May 14, 2007 .. Posted by DanielleW
Ugh, ugh, ugh. I am dealing with this VERY thing here. But the problem is, there is only one of them. Sour look, defeated body posture, arguing, "negotiating", and whining. I am going to have to crack down with the yes ma'am no ma'am mentality on MY part.

Thanks for letting me know that I'm not alone!

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