A Pondering Heart

Aug. 21, 2006 - Keeper at Home: Dreams Unlived?


I was talking with a friend of mine and she was telling me about her “art days”. She had once been offered to go a big art school but choose not to. She decided to be a SAHM.
    Who knows if she had went she might a big art teacher with lot’s of money. She could've sent her k i d s to a “good school” but she didn’t. She choose what was best for her future family and her husband. She has been a great friend to me and such a blessing. She would nt be the same person had she gone of Into The Rough World Of Men

I have a couple questions for SAHM and future SAHM (young ladies in training)

1. What dreams did you give up to be a SAHM?
    I’m not one yet but if God hadn’t commanded women to be at home I would have liked to be a Actress/Stunt person

2. What was your first idea that you wanted to HS?

 Here is the most profound verse telling women their role is in this world:
Proverbs 31: 10-31
 A wife of noble character who can find?
       She is worth far more than rubies.    

11 Her husband has full confidence in her 
    and lacks nothing of value.

 12 She brings him good, not harm,
       all the days of her life.

 13 She selects wool and flax
       and works with eager hands.

 14 She is like the merchant ships,
       bringing her food from afar.

 15 She gets up while it is still dark;
       she provides food for her family
       and portions for her servant girls.

 16 She considers a field and buys it;
       out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.

 17 She sets about her work vigorously;
       her arms are strong for her tasks.

 18 She sees that her trading is profitable,
       and her lamp does not go out at night.

 19 In her hand she holds the distaff
       and grasps the spindle with her fingers.

 20 She opens her arms to the poor
       and extends her hands to the needy.

 21 When it snows, she has no fear for her household;
       for all of them are clothed in scarlet.

 22 She makes coverings for her bed;
       she is clothed in fine linen and purple.

 23 Her husband is respected at the city gate,
       where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.

 24 She makes linen garments and sells them,
       and supplies the merchants with sashes.

 25 She is clothed with strength and dignity;
       she can laugh at the days to come.

 26 She speaks with wisdom,
       and faithful instruction is on her tongue.

 27 She watches over the affairs of her household
       and does not eat the bread of idleness.

 28 Her children arise and call her blessed;
       her husband also, and he praises her:

 29 "Many women do noble things,
       but you surpass them all."

 30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;
       but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.

 31 Give her the reward she has earned,
       and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.


Some may think these verses mean that the Woman goes out into the world to earn her living for her family...NO, that’s not it. She is doing all these to bring honor and glory to her Lord and Husband. She doesn’t have a job she is selling stuff made by her own hands. Just like if you were to make a quilt and sell it from your garage. She is under her Husband’s authority and God’s alone!

How many marriages have been ruined because the women was in the workplace? Because the woman was subject to her boss over her husband? Because her husband cheated on her because there was another woman at his work.

Be a Proverbs 31 Woman and follow only God’s and your husband’s desires,  not your own. You as a woman should always be at Home. No matter if you have children or not. No matter if you are young or old. No matter if your finances are good or bad. NO MATTER WHAT!

Ps. Guys, what do you want your future wives to be like? Your comments are welcome too!


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Aug. 21, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous

I didn't feel like I gave up anything significant to be a stay at home wife and mama. Of course, that's what I'd always wanted to do, but since God didn't bless me with a husband until I was 26 I spent many years waiting- I got to go to Bible school and travel to several countries doing missions work. I was able to use some of my skills, such as sewing and cooking, to earn money along the way. I guess if I felt like I gave up anything it would be the freedom I had to travel, which I do sometimes miss, but the joy of getting to care for my family far outweighs that! And we have and will travel together, and maybe even get to live overseas someday.
I've planned to homeschool for a long time, and of course it's something my husband and I were in agreement on before we got married. I just can't fathom putting my little ones in someone else's care for the better part of every day.
Blessings,
Rebeca

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Aug. 21, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Rebeca

That was me- not sure why it came up as anonymous!
It's wonderful that you are already so committed to being a stay-at-home mama. It is such a wonderful blessing! Do you pray for your future husband? That is something I did for years, and it was amazing to see how God had specifically worked into his character many of the things I prayed for!
Bless you,
Rebeca

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Aug. 21, 2006 - I LOVE your ? !!!!

Posted by Canadagirl

Come visit my blog and you will see my answer to your VERY GOOD QUESTION my SSiC !!!

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Aug. 21, 2006 - sahm

Posted by sharla88

belive it or not my my mom has been a stay at home mom for two months! she hmeschooled me at her job she was the church secratry. she has started to bake bread and sell at the farmers market. shes reallly good. im starting to sell stuff to who knows i could becom a sahm altho i hav to alwayse be busy or ill go nuts thanks for commenting.
love sharla

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Aug. 21, 2006 - To answer your questions:

Posted by ThreeLittleLadies

What dreams did you give up to be a stay at home mom?

None. I always wanted to be a wife and the mother to my children. I spent the first five years of my life out of high school doing mission work and waiting for God to bring me a husband. I had had a dream of becoming a medical missionary, but I laid that on the altar as I followed Jesus step-by-step. After five years of working as a missionary, God called me to go back home and go back to school. I was anxious by then because He hadn't given me a husband yet, but His timing is best. By this time, I decided that doing training as a nurse would be more practical than training as a doctor because of the time requirements (eleven years of school/residency versus 2-4 years as a nurse). I started back to school with this goal, but then I found out about physician assistants and finished school as a PA in 4 1/2 years. While I was in school God brought me my husband. When I finished school, I started working as a PA full-time. After a year of working my first daughter was born. I still had a commitment to work for another year at this location in northeast Kansas, but it was terrible. I realized that my heart was to be home with my daughter. My husband stayed home with her and did a wonderful job, but I was very jealous! I began to pray that God would allow me to stay home with my children, and that my husband could support us. 19 months later I had my second daughter. By then I had finished my commitment in Kansas and we had moved to Illinois, but I still had to work full-time while my husband stayed home with the girls. Anyway, the next fall I found out I was pregnant with my 3rd dd. I cried out to God to make it possible for me to be home at least a year with my girls, so I could breastfeed without pumping, and homeschool both girls. My oldest was in kindergarten at a private school and hating school.

To make a long story short, by January of that year, my dh had a full-time job and I was able to cut back my hours to 1 1/2 days a week! I was thrilled! By April, I was able to bring 1 dd home to homeschool her. In July 3dd was born. The next fall I started homeschooling both girls. A year later, the Lord called us as a family into full-time mission work again and last November we moved to where we currently live. I have no desire to go back and work full-time, but God's dreams He placed in my heart have grown and come to pass. I am a full-time Mom to three lovely girls with a boy on the way; I homeschool my children; I am a medical missionary; and I live in the most beautiful place on earth.

What was your first idea that you wanted to HS?

When my first dd was in private school (public schools in our area were overcrowded and never were an option for us), she was miserable. She hated school and cried everyday we drove her to school (Fortunately she only went to school 3 days a week). I decided that if we didn't listen to her and stand up for her needs, no one would. One month before school was out, we pulled her from school and I began homeschooling her. I knew I'd be able to stay home with her for a year to homeschool, while I was off for maternity leave with my youngest dd, but since then the Lord has made it possible for us to continue. Now I am in my 3rd year of homeschooling, and I hope never to turn back.

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Aug. 21, 2006 - A small correction

Posted by ThreeLittleLadies

It was when my second dd was 4 that I got pregnant with my third dd, not "the next fall"!

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Aug. 21, 2006 - Thanks!!!

Posted by tatertots

That was really beautiful, thanks for sharing. I think I like the books better too. Since I hadn't seen the movies when I read the books, I had pictures in my head of what I thought the characters would look like(and they didn't really look like the ones in the movie, ha ha), so I guess I like the books better. And my cousin is a boy.

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Aug. 21, 2006 - Home is where life begins

Posted by ronandjess

What did a give up? A boss that didn't appreciate me, low pay, super long hours and cafeteria food. (I was a public school teacher, gasp)

When did I decide to HS? As a public school teacher I quickly found there was no way I could send my own child out into that atmosphere. I loved my job and my students but they never got everything they needed.

Being a Prov. 31 women is my goal and daily prayer, thanks for the great post.
Jess

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Aug. 22, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by SunnyFlowers

Oh my, how wonderful it would have been to know what you know at 15! When I was your age I wanted to be a fashion designer, went to school for it, even took four years of French for when I moved to Paris (didn't happen), freelancing to pay for it. And then I met my future husband, and the Lord, and my ideas slowly changed. I had never saw myself as motherly material, was in the work force for seven years before having children, and then had children. Now I can't imagine life any other way, quench my designing desires on clothes for the girls, quilts, and linens. I knew before I had children, that if I did ever have children, that they would be homeschooled, and dh has always agreed with me. Feel like I'm missing out on anything? Nope, only that I wish I knew when I was 15 what I know now. :-)
Thanks for visiting my blog!

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Aug. 22, 2006 - LOTR Reading Review

Posted by mamasmurf

Sorry I wasn't able to post my review yesterday (had a really bad migraine all day so just stayed in a dark room!!).

Have just posted my thoughts on Chapters 6 and 7.

~Chrissy

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Aug. 23, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by kateyz

So what dreams did give up to be a SAHM? Actually, none. Being a SAHM is my "career" of choice. I knew from the time I was about 15 that this was the right thing to do. I was not a Christian at the time and lived in a fairly well to do part of a very large city. It was generally accepted that all girls of my age, family income level and education level would go to university and have great careers. But I knew this was not for me, I had a higher calling! I have never regretted it for a second!
As for homeschooling, I've only done it for one year so far. I wanted to homeschool my oldest right from kindergarten, but didnt have the confidence in myself. I thought I had to reproduce the classroom experience for him, and of course knew I couldn't. I had a friend who homeschooled and learned a lot from her about what it can be like to homeschool. I ended up meeting more homeschoolers where we live and learned more about it. My oldest is now in grade 5, and loves being homeschooled. So does my middle child who is 7!! Oh - also I have decided that it wasn't so much by chance that I met so many homeschoolers early on, it was God's way of leading me to it.
I think you are a remarkable young lady, knowing so early in life what direction you are going!
Kathleen

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Aug. 23, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Amber

I'll be back...

0:) Amber

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Aug. 23, 2006 - Great Post!

Posted by SuperAngel

You really know how to get your point across! You have a really good point to get across too!

Thanks for all the dorky comments you leave!

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Be ready to watch SMALLVILLE tonite! Don't get in TROUBLE! We only have 1 month and 5 days til Season 6! We need to hurry up and get them watched!

Stop by "The Daily Planet" soon!

Take Care!
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Aug. 23, 2006 - Thanks for stopping by

Posted by SunnyMountain

Hey thanks for stopping by my blog and voting for me! I love your design, and I especially like the tupperware joke. Isn't it funny what we women will do for a little time by ourselves. LOL

Thanks!

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Aug. 23, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Earthling

Uh-oh...I guess we are going to have to disagree on something.
Don't get me wrong, I think a woman's number one duty is to her family. Especially with children...
But, I think that if a woman has no children, is married, and can take care of the needs at home first, there is nothing wrong with working out side the home, especially if it is part time. I know women who only work a few hours a week, and have no children, so are able to take care of the needs of their home first.
What do you think about women who volunteer? They are, basically, outside the home, the only difference is that they aren't getting paid.
Anyway, love to hear more from you about this. Hope I didn't offend you. ;)

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Aug. 24, 2006 - I'm answering Earthling...

Posted by Jocelyndixon


Earthling wrote:
Uh-oh...I guess we are going to have to disagree on something.
Don't get me wrong, I think a woman's number one duty is to her family. Especially with children...
But, I think that if a woman has no children, is married, and can take care of the needs at home first, there is nothing wrong with working out side the home, especially if it is part time. I know women who only work a few hours a week, and have no children, so are able to take care of the needs of their home first.



A.So what you are saying is that the only reason for a woman to be at home is because she has/doesn’t have children. Sarah wasn’t a mother until she was 90 and she was always at home. She was always with Abraham.
Which means that if you are a woman there no reason why you shouldn’t be at home whether you have children or not. I could find a lot of women in the Bible who didn’t have children for a long time (or none at all) but were home. They cooked and cleaned and made sure anything and everything they could do was done.


Women in Turkey don’t have anything to do...but they don’t go and get jobs because it would make them feel important or it would bring in more income to the house. A girl, who lives there said, that the Turkish women spends hours and hours taking care of their homes and some of them don‘t have children.
In the US women feel if they stay home they aren’t doing anything...they feel they need to get a job to feel “big and important” Why? Because our society makes the idea of staying at home a bad thing...and now women really don’t have to stay home because we have PS and women can send their children off and go to work.


You are also saying that a woman has to find other means to be fulfilled if she has no children to take care of. God made women to be under the authority of men. How can a woman be under the authority of man if she is in the workplace of a men? They should be under their husband/father’s authority only. These women you know are probably in charge of a couple men. In this way they are stealing the rightful place of a man. Can you imagine how many more jobs there would for men if women were at home?
Men would be able to take care of their families because their wives would be at home taking care their house/children and they would have a job to pay the bills.


What do you think about women who volunteer? They are, basically, outside the home, the only difference is that they aren't getting paid.
As a woman you cannot be working and still be a Proverbs 31 woman. It is not possible. Now, if you are working with your husband at a family business that is different. Why? Because the Woman is working with and for her husband not someone else. I would say that if a woman has a home-based business such as Scrapbooking supplies, Tupperware, Books, Candles and etc. then that is fine because she is benefiting her husband and staying home with her children. A Home-based business is also good because if the woman needs to lay low from her business she can because she is not working for someone. As long as the Home is in front of the business.


My mom, my sister and I volunteered for our church once, but in the end it took away from our home, lives, and schoolwork. Volunteering a couple times a week is ok but when it gets out of hand there has to be stopped. I think that if a family is in need of assistance then another family should help them out. Not just the woman.


I truly believe that this is what God has set for women. Women’s curse was to bear children through pain and Man’s curse was to work the ground. From the beginning God has told us what our roles are and he continued throughout the whole Bible. I would be happy to send you some of the verses that say so.


I would never want to put my husband in the position where he would feel like my job was more important. I would never want him to feel like my boss was a big priority then he was. The best way to achieve this is to be at home and that way you don’t have to worry about any of this, And you also know that you are excepting and fulfilling the Role God has set for you.

I hope I didn't offend you either! ;-)

Sincerely a SAHM in training,


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Aug. 24, 2006 - Reply to what you said :D

Posted by Earthling

My comments preceeded by "**". lol....just trying to take it point by point, you know.


A.So what you are saying is that the only reason for a woman to be at home is because she has/doesn’t have children. Sarah wasn’t a mother until she was 90 and she was always at home. She was always with Abraham.
Which means that if you are a woman there no reason why you shouldn’t be at home whether you have children or not. I could find a lot of women in the Bible who didn’t have children for a long time (or none at all) but were home. They cooked and cleaned and made sure anything and everything they could do was done.
***I know there are examples of women in the Bible who didn't have a children yet remained at home. A lot of that was cultural. However, women at that time had a lot more to do for their home. It wasn't a simple put the laundry in the washing machine, put the meatballs in the oven type of deal. Their family's needs came first, and only, because they didn't have the luxury we have now. Now, we have more time to "ourselves." And why I think that is not always a good thing, I think that being productive in a workplace can be valuable. However if your family's needs DO take up all your time, then by all means, stay at home. I'm a total believer in that.
Women in Turkey don’t have anything to do...but they don’t go and get jobs because it would make them feel important or it would bring in more income to the house. A girl, who lives there said, that the Turkish women spends hours and hours taking care of their homes and some of them don‘t have children.

**I would never recommend getting a job if you are a married women because of more income (unless you are married to someone who is absolutely unable to work and you have no other means of support) or because it makes you feel important. And I think if spending hours and hours taking care of your home is what you feel led called to do, then yes, you must do it. I do think God calls different people to different things--what is right for someone else isn't right for everybody. God may have a place of ministry inside the workplace.


In the US women feel if they stay home they aren’t doing anything...they feel they need to get a job to feel “big and important” Why? Because our society makes the idea of staying at home a bad thing...and now women really don’t have to stay home because we have PS and women can send their children off and go to work.
** I agree our society makes women feel like staying at home is bad thing, when it is clearly, IMO, NOT. Its the greatest thing a woman can do. I am totally against working because of being important. Of wanting to be in charge. All the families that fall apart because the mom is working I think goes back to that. Not that the mom is working, but because she is not submitting to her husband and not taking care of her family. But if all this is done, and there is room for a job, I say go for it. Not for the importance, though.

**Okay, let me tell you what I am planning on doing. I do want to settle down and get married and have children later on. After I finish college, and maybe work a few years. I feel like I'm that type of person who needs to learn how to live independently for a while before going the family route. But I do want that. I want to stay at home, and I want to homeschool. But if the option came to me...let's say my mom says,"Hey, I'll watch your kids one morning a week." I think, unless there is some circumstance that made it bad for family or kids, I would do it. I would get a job...not because I needed to prove myself worthy of supporting. I would do it because and only because I would genuinely love to work, especially with the line of work I hope to get involved with. It's more of a hobby...something I would do even if I WASN'T paid. I guess I'm kind of weird in that aspect, but its true.

**So maybe I'm just really selfish...and maybe that will all change when I actually have kids. Maybe it's just the dreams I have because I'm in love with the idea of being in law enforcement, and helping other people along with my own family. Who knows...God could call me to something different.

**If there were any other reasons to work besides that, I would say NO. I think its dangerous when a woman works because she wants to support alongside with her husband. That's not biblical, and it's not right. It's not our job as women.


You are also saying that a woman has to find other means to be fulfilled if she has no children to take care of. God made women to be under the authority of men. How can a woman be under the authority of man if she is in the workplace of a men? They should be under their husband/father’s authority only. These women you know are probably in charge of a couple men. In this way they are stealing the rightful place of a man. Can you imagine how many more jobs there would for men if women were at home?

**We should be under the authority of a man. I think a boss-employee relationship is not what this is talking about. That's just my opinion. I technically don't think being under a woman in the workplace is being under their authority in that sense. Just in my opinion, I don't really have anything to base that on. How about Deborah?? She was married, the Bible makes it clear to tell us, and yet she judged over Israel. She obviously had some kind of authority. But do you think she didn't submit to her hubby? I doubt so.


Men would be able to take care of their families because their wives would be at home taking care their house/children and they would have a job to pay the bills.


What do you think about women who volunteer? They are, basically, outside the home, the only difference is that they aren't getting paid.
As a woman you cannot be working and still be a Proverbs 31 woman. It is not possible. Now, if you are working with your husband at a family business that is different. Why? Because the Woman is working with and for her husband not someone else. I would say that if a woman has a home-based business such as Scrapbooking supplies, Tupperware, Books, Candles and etc. then that is fine because she is benefiting her husband and staying home with her children. A Home-based business is also good because if the woman needs to lay low from her business she can because she is not working for someone. As long as the Home is in front of the business.
** The Proverbs 31 woman sold her things to the merchants. Yes, that was homebased. I think homebased businesses or family businesses are great! I love the idea of working alongside your family. I know a woman who, before they had kids, was a doctor. She worked alongside her hubby in the practice. What do you think of that? She became a SAHM once they had children, but before that it didn't interfere with her ability to meet her husband's needs. In fact, I think it strenghtened her marriage.

My mom, my sister and I volunteered for our church once, but in the end it took away from our home, lives, and schoolwork. Volunteering a couple times a week is ok but when it gets out of hand there has to be stopped. I think that if a family is in need of assistance then another family should help them out. Not just the woman.
** Good points. I agree--only you say a couple times a week. What's the difference between working a couple hours a week if it doesn't get out of hand??

I truly believe that this is what God has set for women. Women’s curse was to bear children through pain and Man’s curse was to work the ground. From the beginning God has told us what our roles are and he continued throughout the whole Bible. I would be happy to send you some of the verses that say so.
**Please do. I'd love to look at them.

I would never want to put my husband in the position where he would feel like my job was more important. I would never want him to feel like my boss was a big priority then he was. The best way to achieve this is to be at home and that way you don’t have to worry about any of this, And you also know that you are excepting and fulfilling the Role God has set for you.
** I again agree with you. I don't want a job more important than a family. I don't want my family feeling like a job is more important than them. And I would never get a part time job without consulting them. If my husband didn't want it, or even a little bit hesitant, I wouldn't do it. Tehy would be my first priority...but I don't think that means they have to be my only priority.

**Anyway, thanks for your opinion. I really respect what you have to say--I think that's great that God has called you to be a total SAHM. Because I know He has, I say with 100% of my might, Go for it!!! :D I don't want to try to change your views, I just wanted to let you know what I think God has in store for me. ;)
Well, I'm off to try my hand at making broc. soup. Yum!
Me

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