Sep. 14, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by Narniagirl |
Great post again, Joci. Very well said. I've thought about doing a post about that. It's sad how some people look down on us homeschoolers!
Glad you liked my post and that I could 'push you forward'. I just felt it was something I needed to get out there, since some kids don't pray on a regular basis. I wanted to remind people to pray for our nation.
Love,
Kylie
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Sep. 14, 2007 - BRAVO! |
| Posted by quietcajun |
I am giving this post a standing ovation! We adults thought this was true, but hearing it from a young lady's point of view is very validating!
Well put!
Love in Christ,
Auntie Christina |
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Sep. 14, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by totustuus |
I think that public schoolers *are* more socialized than homeschoolers, but it's a negative socialization. Much of our culture is simply rude, vulgar, and totally self-seeking. Why would we want to become socialized into that kind of society? We want a respectable socialization (even if there is less of it) - polite, honorable, and Christ-centered.
So, I guess what I'm saying is that public schoolers are very socialized in the wrong setting. Homeschoolers may be less "socialized", but at least they learn to function in the right setting. THAT'S what really matters in the long run.
I hope that makes sense. Great post, Jocelyn. Keep it up.
Galu!
-Aldawen |
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Sep. 14, 2007 - Good post! |
| Posted by ElvishMaiden14 |
I love the posts you write! Especialy ones like this one. I really like to talk to adults, and I don't feel uncomfortable about it, either. I think adults can tell that homeschooled children are smart, and like to talk to them.
Oh, and by the way I have sent you an e-mail about my poetry contest banners.
Merry |
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Sep. 14, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by Free2bme |
Arg! I hate it when boys honl and holler and whistle and just make theirselves nusances! And sometimes it doesn't matter how modestly you conduct yourself.*sighs* 'Socialization' sure has done wonders,eh?
Debs |
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Sep. 14, 2007 - Eeeeeeeekkkkkkkk |
| Posted by alizona |
| I never know what to say to people! Recently someone wanted to know why I didn't talk to him, but it was because I felt uncomfortable and didn't know what to say! I want to have conversations with people, but I don't know how to start or what to say. And then with certain people, they say something, and even if I am interested, all I can figure out to say is usually "Yeah!"... Sigh. Does that mean I'm socialized? I hope not! :o) |
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Sep. 15, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by doglvr |
People say all of the time. Why don't you go to public school, you would find more friends. Well, maybe I only have a couple friends, but I like them all and we are good friends. As for being unsocialzed, I have seen a couple of people like that who are even homeschooled, but most go to public school. They don't have there parents as there teachers, so they just think that they can act diffrently.
Jennifer |
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Sep. 15, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by Posted by Raora |
Yes, I know. It is so irritating sometimes when people say that homeschoolers won't ever be able to 'socialize.'
''You know, you guys, you are, like, just like going to, like, HAVE to go to our, you know, like, public schools if you, like, you know, want to learn how to, like, socialize. I mean its just kinda, you know, like, necessary so like yeah.''
Don't you just love their way of socializing!
PS Your email is coming up, like, soon, you know, so, like, yeah... |
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Sep. 15, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by ChesapeakeGirl |
| I think it is hilarious when people call us "unsocialized". My mom calls socialization it the dreaded "S" word. I gave you an award, come to my blog to check it out. I hope you have a wonderful weekend!!! Ciao, Sara |
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Sep. 15, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by Chris |
| yep i need to work on my conversation skills, i talk alot, but yeah. Unless i know the person i am like all shy. But...then sometimes i'm not so w/e lol |
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Sep. 15, 2007 - sad |
| Posted by baruch117 |
Yes, I've ran into those kinds of people before too. When I start a conversation, I try and start it with a smile or just by saying "Hello". I agree with what you said on my post. I believe that God allows us to make the decisions but He presaw or knew that they were going to happen before we did. Ttyl and God bless
Matt/Eragon |
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Sep. 15, 2007 - My idea of public schoolers |
| Posted by LadyRachel |
Hi Jocelyn!
Cool post!!! I really agree with you. I do have one "theory" though, about public schoolers. I think that they are rather over-socialized, instead of under-socialized. They're used to starting conversations to people with inside jokes, moreso. For example, instead of starting something off like "Hello Miss Judy Jones, how has your weekend been?" it would be more of an inside joke response. Like.....Okay, something as weird and random as: "HEY GIRLY! What on EARTH do you have on your HEAD?" Or something like that. Lol! I mean, they are in this setting where they abandon common known rules of speech and courtesy. In schools, it's almost this touchy-feely relationship with everyone. I think in movies and shows and stuff, they try to be funny by adding lines in like that, but sometimes, it actually happens, I'm sure. But anyway, I think that's why they think homeschoolers are strange and goofy are because of their manners, and courtesy. We're "too good" for them. We're "too sweet" for their taste, and too "innocent" to be near. Perhaps that boy was just embarrassed, and couldn't think of anything to say, or maybe, he thought it'd be funny to ask something goofy, and get a serious response. (That's happened to me before, and they think it's really funny when girls respond seriously.) Of course, that was just one guy, so you never know. I'm not saying I don't agree with you, I'm just saying, that I think public schoolers and private schoolers, are in this environment, where weird, random, crazy, and immoral things are considered "cool". Where girls wearing immodest clothing is a pleasure to guys. There was this boy that had been in public school for all his life, and now he's homeschooling, and he's a constant burden sometimes. It is SO hard dealing with him, because his mind is full of...well...JUNK. He gets mad when he sees us wearing modest clothes, instead of immodest ones at his schools. He constantly complains that we're out of style, and he thinks he needs to help us. He assumes homeschoolers don't know anything at all, and he tries to pull tricks and jokes, and use language he thinks we don't know about. All he thinks of girls is instantly "girl friend", not just as a simple acquaintance and friend, a GIRL friend. So if I approach him nicely, he starts getting these ideas in his head, and even starts talking about it. That's one thing that I simply detest about the public school systems - relationships and love are on the minds of almost every student.
I have more pity on them, though. I mean, it's really, really sad. At times, I will admit, I have been terribly shy, that people get the wrong ideas about homeschooling. But when I really talk, and act normally, people seem to be more comfortable around me. I think people need to be careful about impressions. First impressions are often misleading. (Like in Pride & Prejudice, for example.) When I first met this boy, I thought he was very nice, well-mannered, and everything. I was surprised at it, really. But then, months later, his true colors showed. In front of Amanda, Jillian and me, he began criticizing us for not having boyfriends or dating, and for just being content. (Can you BELIEVE that?) He then began talking bad about his parents, who have tried so hard to homeschool him, and instruct him on the right paths. His parents are great Christians, and it really surprises me at his behaviour sometimes. Once I said, "You know, it takes all of one to be a Christian - not part of them." and he said, "NO, that's not true! That's a LIE!". I've just really been praying for him, that he'll change his heart. He's a dangerous person, though. I know he has information he's trying to pass on to us and its' wrong. That's why on Priceless Purity, I really, really am concerned about these Christian girls that are in contact of boys like this one. It's DANGEROUS. And I've met many more young men that are in his level too. So I just want to warn every girl, be careful with each guy you come across to. I'm not trying to be disrespectful to children in schools - sometimes their parents enroll them, or they are in other situations when they can't homeschool. (I've met a few people like that...And it's seriously sad!)
But anyway...I've been through lots of weird experiences with these people. I have been approached way too many times by guys, and what's on their mind is "can you be my girlfriend" sort of stuff. I mean, it's crazy. I might not even KNOW them. They're just desperate. They're in this society in which, if not in some relationship, they're accused of all sorts of bad things. Their views on Christianity become distorted, and when they start getting in a bad crowd, they seem to think that if Christians don't support their decisions, that there's no use in being one. I've had discussions when non-Christians before. Finally, they'd admit what I would say, was indeed true. It's their relationship with God and their parents that is threatened. And their siblings as well. They're with their friends all day in schools. They're pushed into taking up bad habits, because it's the style, the cool thing to do. They don't let God in their hearts. The best way, I believe, to talk to someone in trouble, is by approaching them, and telling them things about your life, and how God has helped you. They like to listen to stories and examples. (Like, remember when Jesus would tell parables? I don't know, I just started thinking about that.) I think that instead of avoiding these people, it is better to reach out in a loving way, and try to help them. It's kind of hard, but I think that with God, it's definitely possible.
Okay, I am SO sorry that this is so long. When I write things, it's usually waaay too long. :-O
God bless, and stand strong!!!
~Rachel~ |
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Sep. 15, 2007 - Hello |
| Posted by Neeto |
I wondered what people would think when they saw "Neeto" on their friends list.
I always like to here about balls or dances that other bloggers go too, because of the one I went to. The only boys that I danced with though, were my brother, and one of my friend's dad, (not quite sure he qualifies as a "boy".)
Anyway, I totally agree with everything you said, and discovered one more thing that we have in common, the fact that we are willing to let are sisters do the talking for us! |
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Sep. 15, 2007 - Hey |
| Posted by cherryblossom |
Oh wow! Very thinker like :) Ok so yeah I have trouble talking to people too. Even people I know. I never know what to say. I am an extremely shy person when meeting face to face. It's weird.
When big groups of teens get together I always feel insuperior....? Cause they all chit chat with nothing stopping them and I'm like.. "Yeah.. Mmmmhmm.." But I am getting better. I will be much better by next year ;) ;) ;)
Wow.. I just realized I use alot of smilies. In my posts too... Ok I need to chill out on the smilies :) Oh there I did it again.. ;)
and again. Anyway. I watched LOTR 1 and 2 yesterday and today. I have an extremely hard time looking at Gollum though cause he like freaks me out to no end. Its like something out of my nightmares.. and it doesn't help he turned evil at the end of lotr 2. Sighhhhhhhhhh... Must go watch the third one now.
Love
Julia |
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Sep. 15, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by BrielleCostumes |
Hello Jocelyn,
I enjoyed reading your post…
What a funny story….(sort of like my mr.collins..lol…) I can’t belive (well I can..) that a guy would try to start a conversation that way. Sorry about your encounter with him.
I’m the same way… “ I don't usually talk to people when we go places”…I’m not trying to be rude…I’ll smile and such, but I’m afraid…”I don’t have the talent for conversing easily with people I have never met before”.....
It is strange how people assume that since we are homeschooled that we don’t have any social skills…. I’ve had people ask me lots of questions like…. “how do you socialize?” “you must not really talk to people….or have friends”….. just because I am educated at school doesn’t mean I don’t socialize. Besides most of the “social time” I see from other “more socialized people” isn’t really that special.
I enjoy just spending time with my family and being social in that way.
So how are you doing? School going ok?.....
Well I hope you have a wonderful day! ..(or evening)
Love,
Brielle
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Sep. 16, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by Bluejane |
My Mom has told Eyebright and I many a time, after we have gone and talked to an adult how impressed they where that we could actually hold a decent conversation.
One time one of our Uncles went to a familys house, and the children where just horrible. He started to brag about how great Eyebright, Kekoa, Cheeko, and I where.
Once again great post!
Bluejane |
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Sep. 16, 2007 - a note from Rose |
| Posted by Rose |
Hello Jocelyn,
About your post and the grocery bagger, that is too funny...makes me reminisce of Amanada Brielles encounter with Mr. Collins...only he was unfortunately more forward...=)
Love your Friend,
Rebekah Rose. J. |
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Sep. 16, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by pianolove |
Uh, Hi Jocelyn!
I'm umm... I'm really glad my parents have taught me (whadduyah call 'em, oh, yeah) soshal skills.
I, uh usully, I can hold my own in a conversation. At least, I think so.... I don't think I tryed, ever.
Heather |
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Sep. 16, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by sharla88 |
LOL Your halarious girl i was just thinking about how some kids just dont know how to talk to me or anybody I was at the JAF and I was buying something for my cousins and there was a boy working at the booth and I handed him the money and he was like ummmm,,,, and I thought he was going to say something to me but he just turned around blushing he made me laugh but i was sad for him too. we are carzy unsocalised homeschoolers? We met eachother! and we have never spoken outside of cyberspace. LOL people are so prejudous but we know were awsoem. ;)
Love you,
sharla~ |
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Sep. 17, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by writer4him |
Hello!
I'm sorry I missed this week's assignment for the S&C exploration blog...well, I'll try hard for next week!
Very funny about your "socialization" experience....funny, I get so much socialization with such a broad range of people I hardly have time for school work
~writer4him |
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Sep. 17, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by melarooski |
I liked this post. You gave some really good examples of "socialized" and "non-socialized" individuals. Thanks for sharing!
-Melanie |
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Sep. 17, 2007 - Memories... |
| Posted by illiteratepoet |
Well, you brought back a few for me... when I was... gosh, your age I guess... my best friend, Maggie, and I used to go everywhere together. Maggie didn't mind babbling, and I didn't tend to talk unless I lfelt I had something worth saying. Maybe I should be more discrete in my wording... Maggie liked to talk a lot and I didn't. I liked to watch, listen, sum things up, decide who people were... so Maggie kept them occupied and I weighed and measured and decided if there were people we probably would not be be hanging around with too much. It was a wonderful arrangement...
One day, after a week of hanging around with a group of teen Russian immigrants, one of the boys said, "We know that Maggie entertains us, but that one over there is the smart one. She's always listening... we bet she goes home and studies Russian all night so she can understand what we say to each other..." I nearly choked on my water since I actually DID do that... but all I said was "Interesting." Maggie, OTOH, was highly offended and went off on a half hour rant about how smart she was. ;-) In her defense, she was -- much better than I when it came to science and programming... not like HTML or anything, but the heavier stuff...Anyway, I finally tired of the argument and went off to sword/stick-fighting class... Maggie went off to flirt (the one sad thing for me was that Maggie was not and still is not a Christian... and not because I never dragged her off to church... *insert big heartfelt sigh here*).
I still smile remembering the perfect pair we were, and I thank God for the trustworthy female friends He has provided at times throughout my life... and that as I have grown older more of those have been true believers living their faith.. those friendships are highly undervalued in the modern world.
Blessings... |
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Sep. 17, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by Titus2woman |
| HA! I agree about socialization. My kids will talk ANYONE to death! LOL! Great story, and *THANK YOU!* for your vote! (((((HUGS))))) sandi |
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Sep. 17, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by bassethound |
Hello Jocelyn,
We have had some funny experinces at the grocery store too:)
Have a lovely day!
~Jessica |
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Sep. 17, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by Earthling |
Hehe, your post made me laugh. Very good though. It's true, PS highschoolers can be so horrible at communication--especially the guys! You don't see that with homeschoolers, or even some of the better private schools, though!
Your post about dress intrigued me. Do you mind me asking, do you think it's morally wrong to wear some of the things you mentioned (tank tops, pants, long shorts), or do you just feel convicted that you shouldn't wear them? Hope you don't mind me asking, and I'm not trying to start an arguement or anything, just wondered!
What you said about goody goody homeschool families wearing skirts...that made me laugh. I had the same expierince, except kind of backwards of yours. When I was younger, I only wore skirts/dresses. I was in a group with people who only wore them. However, I didn't really "get along" with some of the people in that group. When I got older, I decided I liked pants--I didn't think there was anything wrong with them, personally, and I thought they were comfortable and could be modest if I got the right kind. But I kept thinking about those people I used to know....and I think it kind of made me a bit prejudiced against "those" homeschooling families who only wore skirts. Wrong of me, I know LOL. But now knowing people who do both, I think it's something everyone has to be convinced of in their own heart.
Anyway, I would love to talk more about this, but probably not best for a comment! LOL. |
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Sep. 19, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by BritishColumbia |
Well said sweetie. Going to school does not mean learning social skills!
Blessings
Kathleen
http://www.kateyz.blogspot.com |
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Sep. 19, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by norwezter |
I completely agree with you!
But I am amazed you got to dance the rest of the dances at the barn dances especially with 150 people!!! Especially when you didn't know anyone there!!! That isn't how it is at our Church. We have that style of dances a lot and there are only a few boys who actually dance every dance.
I've seen a few of those movies too. But when the boys at our Church do ask us to dance it is NOT like that. They bow and say "May have the honor of this dance?" Very politely.
What type of dancing did you do?
Buttercup |
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Sep. 21, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by Christiananimallover |
| Great!!!! Bravo!! That was an excellent entry!! Kinda of funny too!! How are you?? Sorry I have not commented in awhile but that is because I have been very busy!!! I hope to hear from you soon!! |
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Sep. 22, 2007 - Untitled Comment |
| Posted by Anonymous |
| Oh goodness...I remember the way "socialized" boys talked to me in high school. I think I'd prefer not to relive it, although it was amusing in a way. They all seemed to think they were so cool... |
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