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Jan. 14, 2008
A Rare Political Post from Me
Last week I was listening to a podcast from townhall.com, and the guests were Dennis Prager and James Dobson, whom I have a great deal of respect for, and a lady whose name I missed.  They were discussing Mitt Romney and a speech he made about  religious freedom.  In that speech, Mr. Romney said "religious tolerance would be a shallow principle, indeed, if it were reserved only for faiths with which we agree."  Romney went on to say that some have gone too far in the separation of church and state.   "It is as if they are intent on establishing a new religion in America -- the religion of secularism. They are wrong," he said.

True!  Many who want to avoid any semblance of religious endorsement by the American government are, in fact, merely shifting the endorsement to atheism or agnoticism or secularism or humanism, whatever their particular "-ism" happens to be.  The buzz word is tolerance, and yet, Christianity seems to be the one thing that is not tolerated.

Now Romney is in a tough spot-- not only is he under scrutiny from those who don't want a person of faith in office, he is under scrutiny from evangelicals who aren't sure thay can endorse someone of his faith-- Mormonism.  I am wrestling with this myself-- do I want someone who shares my "values" in office, or someone who shares my faith?  Stay tuned-- I really don't know yet.  I think he is the closest to my political values, although I could probably also go along  with Huckabee or Thompson.

I am all for freedom of religion, and I firmly believe Americans should be allowed to practice whatever religion they choose.  In my personal life, I will do my best to influence those in my sphere for the cause of Christ.  But when I choose leaders, I want leaders who are going to value what I value-- the sanctity of life, the sanctity of marriage, smaller government, winning the war on terror, etc.  And their faith is important to me.  People might think me narrow-minded or "intolerant," but those same people will want to choose leaders who share their values and their faith --or lack thereof.

In an email devotional by John Piper, he addressed the issue of promoting the supremacy of God in a pluralistic world where most people don't recognize God as part of their lives, must less a part of their government.  He had this to say:

God himself is the foundation for our commitment to a pluralistic democratic order -- not because pluralism is his ultimate ideal, but because in a fallen world, legal coercion will not produce the kingdom of God. Christians agree to make room for non-Christian faiths (including naturalistic, materialistic faiths), not because commitment to God's supremacy is unimportant, but because it must be voluntary, or it is worthless. We have a God-centered ground for making room for atheism. "If my kingship were of this world, my servants would fight" (John 18:36). The fact that God establishes his kingdom through the supernatural miracle of faith, not firearms, means that Christians in this age will not endorse coercive governments -- Christian or secular.

So the question becomes how do we allow the freedom of religion that a pluralistic society demands and yet promote the values that our faith instills in us?  I have to admit, I would turn America into a theocracy if I could.  :)  But God has placed us in this country with this structure of government and He is sovereign over it all.  Romans 13 makes that clear.  And so we must exercise our right to vote and ensure that the leaders we select are the ones who will lead this country according to the values that we hold dear.

I thought this was a neat tool-- you can answer some questions about the issues that are important to you, and it will match you to the candidate who most shares your values.

Candidate Calculator

If you try it, let me know who it puts you with.  I ended up with Romney, but Fred and Mike were close behind, as well as a couple of lesser-knowns.

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Jan. 15, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by SeekingJESUSnTeachingKIDS


I hear a lot of people talking about Romney vs. Huckabee. But Huckabee has declared himself a Christian. That means he has the Holy Spirit which can guide him. Also he is a brother in Christ. I think when we pray for Huckabee , God can help him make the best decisions. Romney sounds good I agree, But he doesn't serve the same God as us. And if he doesn't serve Jesus he must serve the purposes of Satan. There are only 2 sides. The Mormon religion is not Christian. It was either on youtube or godtube that they have a cartoon of what they believe. And I find it crazy and scary. Satan never minds when we want "good" things as long as we don't have Jesus. I am sorry this is long, but I get a bit concerned when I think of a wolf in sheeps clothing. I am in prayer that is for sure. God is sovereign and only allows that which He can use for His glory. And that comforts me.
:>Michelle


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Jan. 15, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by MOMatHWTK


My calculator came up with Brownback first (though that seems to be a moot decision) and Huckabee 2nd, followed by a couple of unknowns. Romney came in first in the 2nd tier choices.

I try to focus on the Scriptures that remind us that all men's actions are for naught and it is God's plan that will prevail.


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Jan. 15, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous


EXCELLENT post. You've verbalized what I've thought and couldn't put into words!!
Cindy


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Jan. 16, 2008 - Holy Spirit

Posted by Anonymous


You can be a Christian and still be a dummy. I don't know about Huckabee in particular and I'm not saying HE'S a dummy, but if his policy choices have been poor in the past, what would make me think he'll "listen" to the Holy Spirit any more as president than he has in the past? A lost person may be a better surgeon, mechanic, teacher, or president than a saved person. You better look at the person and the record they bring with them and not just a "church" label.


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Jan. 16, 2008 - Hmmm

Posted by NeverAlone


You are all making me think-- Now my question is-- is a dummy plus the Holy Spirit better than a "wise" man without the Holy Spirit?

~Leslie


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Jan. 20, 2008 - <i>Untitled Comment</i>

Posted by 5atkins


I scored with Ron Paul the highest, with Huckabee and Tancredo coming in close to that. They all claim to have faith in God. I certainly wouldn't vote for someone who I know is without faith in God and I don't believe Mormons have that. So I can't vote for Romney. However, God placed His Spirit over Saul and he still blew things royally didn't he! I also believe and take comfort in the fact that ultimately who ever is elected is exactly the one God determined for America, be it judgement or mercy! Thanks for the link to the quiz. I saw it a few months ago, but forgot to save it! Although I did feel like some of the explanations to yes or no did not fully represent the facts. For example Paul supports ending the war for different reasons than the democrats.
I vote for a Theocracy too!

Non-politcally speaking, I love MOH. I was using Veritas Press but I didn't want to skip over the 1000BC-30AD period as they do (they teach it separately in Bible, but I like to keep it combined.) I also really like teaching the world events in sequence with each other and not only talking about one group of people! I look forward to getting Volume 2 and I hope she will have Volume 3 when I am ready for it!

I have another post up in response to your question in the comments section.
Okay, I am getting off here now and heading to bed. Can you tell I had Dr. Pepper late tonight? :)
Blessings, Eva

Edited by 5atkins on Jan. 20, 2008 at 12:02 AM


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