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Nov. 17, 2007

Thinking about relationships

Before I plunge into the thoughtful part of this post, I went hunting up at the B's today. I've never before hunted so much in one day, but I am unfortunately still deer-less.

It was fun anyway, though. I even got to drive Mr. Roy's ATV and help dismantle Tanner's dirtbike. Although I'm not sure if anything good will come of that endeavor.

Oh, and I'm noticing a distinct lack of entries for the Fall Poetry contest. At this rate the whole thing will die before it starts. :P So get writing!

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And now, on to the serious . . .

The idea of relationships (as in boy/girl relationships) randomly popped into my head a while back, and I decided I should write a bit about it. This is going to be kind of "on the fly", but we'll see where she goes.

First, before I go any further, I need to mention some things. To begin with, I realize there are all sorts of "methods" for finding a wife nowadays (i.e. dating, courting, betrothal, having your parents pick, whatever), but I really think every situation is unique, and most methods are only defined after the goal has been reached. Plus, when I say "courting", you may think of one thing, and somebody else may think of something else entirely, so that really doesn't help. So, I'm going to try to avoid mentioning specific methods and instead focus on the actual real-life aspects.

Second, the term "dating" has such negative connotations (especially in conservative homeschool circles), that it gets in the way of having a meaningful discussion. So I'm specifically going to try to avoid that word.

Third, I'm not going to try to endorse any particular method or scheme, but instead try to establish some logical points from which one can build their view of relationships, whatever they end up calling it.

Fourth, being male, I'm obviously going to be writing this from a guy's perspective. :)

So, to begin.

To start off,  there's one thing about relationships nowadays that I think is really harmful and, well, stupid. This is the idea that you see a girl, think "wow, she's pretty," and ask her out. Very bad idea. This approach essentially preempts any chance of you actually learning who the girl really is, because it stands to reason that if she feels the same way about you, she's going to try and impress you. Much better to just be friends and observe who she really is, don't you think?

And there's another thing that bothers me quite a bit. A lot of guys seem to view girlfriends as something that you acquire. In other words, you don't enter a deeper relationship, you just get a girlfriend. And then you go tell your friends "hey, I got a girlfriend today" in the same way that you would tell them about your new car. And since so many people do this, it's like having a girl/boyfriend is a way to elevate your status. So, just like you might want to get an iPod, simply because everybody else has one regardless of whether or not they're the best, most guys simply want to get a girlfriend, even if their "relationship" is really something ridiculously superficial.

I think another problem is that teenagers don't have the end goal in mind. Now, this applies for the most part to Christian teenagers, because most non-Christian teenagers do have their own goals in mind when looking for "relationships", and they generally get them, too. But for a Christian, the goal is to find a suitable wife/husband. And since we've already established that you won't learn anything reliable about a girl once you've entered a relationship with them, then the big question is this: would you ever have a relationship with a girl you wouldn't be willing to marry? If you do have such a relationship, you're headed for big time pain in the near future.

And then there's the issue of age. It logically follows that the further you are from being old enough to marry, the less likely it is that your relationship is going to hold up. But that said, many people have ended up marrying their "high-school sweetheart", so that isn't necessarily a rule. But if your relationship is going to succeed it has to be something different than what most people think of as a relationship.

The previously mentioned relationships of getting involved with a girl before you know her and "acquiring a girlfriend", will most likely not end happily. So you're going to have to find something deeper than that. I have a friend who is very close with a certain girl, and you could reasonably say they are best friends. They know everything about each other, they support each other in their Christianity, and their relationship is very much deeper than just a boyfriend/girlfriend match. In fact, if you were to ask them if they're "in a relationship", they would probably say no, but they most definitely are. This is the kind of mature pair that will probably succeed, even though it will be 2 or 3 years before they can consider marrying.

Now, a relationship like that obviously comes along gradually. So, once again, if your goal is just to get a girlfriend, you're going to fail. This is where patience and following God's leading play a big role.

Which brings me to my final point. This whole relationship game is another one of those "gray areas" that I mentioned in a post a while back. So you have to remember the deciding factor: what is God leading me to do? Although you may not feel like it's true, God really does lead teenagers, and I can assure you he will lead you as you look for "the one." So instead of just picking up on a method like another label and formula to follow, look to God and the mature people around you for guidance, and you'll be able to break all the stereotyping and all the failure that is so common these days.

And don't forget to lend a hand to your friends who are caught up in today's destructive ideas. :)
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Nov. 18, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by DarthYxpu
*applauds*

Very well written, Tim!
This is excellent.
This is one of those issues that some teens might find to be slightly "awkward" and prefer not to talk about. But you laid it out very well and it is something that should be discussed.

I really like what you had to say here:

"And then you go tell your friends "hey, I got a girlfriend today" in the same way that you would tell them about your new car. And since so many people do this, it's like having a girl/boyfriend is a way to elevate your status."

This is unfortunately very true.

A lot of people are (mentally) too immatures for relationships anyhow. They jump into one 'cause they think, as you said, it'll elevate their status.

Well, written and I agree with you completely!



In reply to your comment,
Man, we need to get together soon... and play some more football!
Haha... I don't understand it one bit but plowing through people is fun! :D

You beat HL2 already!?!?
Ah man, I so want to see the last boss.

Invite me over!

Hahaha...

Ok, yes, I'll add you to my friends list!

TTYL!

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Nov. 18, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by BlogBoy
Very good points man. I am going to be writing on this soon also. There are some things that really need to be addressed and a lot of teens do find them hard to talk about.

God bless,
Eric
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Nov. 18, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by BlogBoy
Lol, I totally forgot why I was commenting! Comes from getting wrapped up in good posts ;)

RYC: Nope, I came to the conclusion that what you eat cannon defile you a long while ago. Maybe when I was ten? somewhere around there.

I will send you some links.

Eric
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Nov. 21, 2007 - GREAT POST!!

Posted by SuperAngel
WOW, Tim!! That is really a great one. I loved it. I am actually working on one like this. hahaha
You are so right in just about everthing you said.
Just wanted to tell you well done on this!!
Amanda
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Nov. 21, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Jocelyndixon
First, I want to say bravo, Timothy. This was an excellent, well-though out post.I am so glad to read what you believe and agree with you.

We're not allowed to have any kind of relationship until we are entering into for the purpose of being married. I think that is the main reason we have so many divorces nowadays... because *kids* enter into relationships, with no intention of getting married, and then break them off when they're "done". They grow up thinking that's ok, so when they do commit to a marriage... and then want out... they get a divorce. sigh. It's sad.

I agree with paulie... kids are just too immature these days. They just want to play. I don't know if I am mature enough to have a relationship, but I know I am not old enough... not yet.

Right now, I have to focus on what God has put in my life... my family, my schoolwork, and my blogging. It's something to look forward to, not something to "play with or something to dwell too much on.

Great post, again! And I tagged you because... well, I've met you.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
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Jocelyn
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Nov. 22, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Mrs.S
Hey, Tim,

Your parents have done an AMAZING job raising you up. You're a man of conviction based on God's word and not of some baseless opinion or worldly, self proclaiming wise person. That is rare (this maturity) even among adults, much less a 16 year old! It's funny how so many people find themselves (Christians especially) doling out unsolicited advice. They are only wise in their own eyes, but they have no idea about it - they're blind. And quite often, their counsel is based on what is in their own heads - based on worldy psychology. No wonder the seeker churches are so large! They are filled primarily with those who want their ears tickled. Bible mentions this will be quite the case in the end times. Scary place to be! They grow only in people pleasing (loved by everyone), and little by little whatever godly reasoning they used to have becomes muted....a vapor. By then they are deceived with their new, worldly philosophies.

I hope the teens here read this post of yours - it's excellent. And Tim, be true to your convictions in this area. Don't change. Don't make the mistake of even though you know the above is true, falling into waffling five years from now, kwim? Easy to do - we see that all the time and it's sad. Don't find yourself folding or denying the truth due to a change of motives or peer pressure; that's of the world.

You're a leader, completely. Stay that way. It's not easy standing by the Truth of God's word. Most folks want to be "popular" because they are pleasers or are selfish, only acting on wrong motives. A leader sometimes stands alone (it is no fun sometimes to speak up), but God is watching. In the end, it's those leaders who will receive God's rewards. The "folders" will find their good works burning up like straw.

Not only that - leaders are a hard brood to find these days (and I am talking about Christian leaders - ones with strong convictions and not afraid to voice them since they are GOD pleasers, not people pleasers). This is the direction you are headed in, one interested in serving the Lord (your brother Todd is the same way, as I am sure you know - Truth means so much to him; he doesn't mince words).

There will be many men who look to you later on for wisdom, good counsel and leadership. Stay that way and be blessed. Get wrapped up in other things, people pleasing things, things that make you stupid over the passage of time (since you'd be relying on your own "wisdom") and you'll quickly become self-deceived, blind as a bat and unwilling/unable to see straight anymore. Godly wisdom comes from one place - our obedience (no matter how hard) to Christ. That's what will keep you seeing straight, able to reason and have eyes to see. The world cannot take that away - and people who are truly interested in God's word will flock to you for counsel. Give it to them; The LORD can use people like you and Todd.

Inside joke with your mom, but go out and tell her now, "Hey to Steph"....and that I miss her. And then give her a HUGE kiss.

In Christ,

Mrs.S
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Nov. 22, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by DarthYxpu
Wow, that was a long comment, Mom.
Haha...



I was reminded how much I liked your entry. I'm going to link to it.

TTYL, Happy Thanksgiving!
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Nov. 23, 2007 - well done

Posted by neuropoet3
Just wanted to let you know I enjoyed this. I dropped in over here from your comment on my Apricotpie post. :) It's so encouraging to know that there are other young people out there who are trying to prepare themselves for a real, life-long relationship rather than the mess so much of society portrays teenagers have to live...
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Nov. 27, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Jocelyndixon
Hey you! Long time no comment, huh? I thought I had offended you with my comment on your post with the pictures. I didn't, though right? ; )

I am glad you had a good thanksgiving. We didn't do anything either - no family - no friends! sigh.

Anyway, I don't listen to music (disagree with 99.9% of the lrycis and bands) so that's why I would have gotten them mixed up! haa! Thanks for telling me. ; ) I'll fix it.

Oh yes, and I decided on a different title for my blog: A Pondering Heart. Whada think? I got my own URL too. I will be blogging there soon.

Don't be a stranger
Jocelyn

{];)
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Nov. 30, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by BlogBoy
RYC: Thanks Tim, just want to clarify that my entry was not pro staying single. It was just saying that singleness is a season and something that we really shouldn't worry about. So many people start to obsess about it and it really is not how God planned marriage. Just read what Paul said about it ;)

Anyway, just my thoughts. e

Eric
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Jan. 22, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Jocelyndixon
I just saw you went hunting... that sounds neat. I want to learn how to hunt, but my dad isn't interested (no one else 'round here).

Jocelyn
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Jan. 29, 2008 - Amen!

Posted by 00StormSpotter
Great post!
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Feb. 21, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Kansasflower
Writing as a girl, I have to say bravo. Relationships like this are a touchy issue. I think it's great that your friends have a steady FRIENDSHIP, before they even say that they are "together". Sorry that I write this so late after you posted, but I just discovered you today. I think your posts are great, btw. And I like your layout thing! Even though I never knew what it looke dlike before.

Kansas
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