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Sep. 9, 2007

Church Hunting

If I had to name one thing I dislike most about moving it would have to be church hunting.  Only once in our various moves has the church hunt been a no-brainer...when we moved to my husband's hometown. 

 

For many people, church hunting means you only have to look in the yellow pages for your local denomination.  But for us--as homechurchers--it is not that easy.  There isn't a section in the yellow pages that says Home Churches.

 

The first Sunday we were here, we drove back to our hometown to go to church w/ my mother-in-law.  Driving this far every Sunday is not an option; however.   The next Sunday we attended the church of another MOMYS, but that drive was also 35 mins, and we still have our hearts hoping to find another home chruch.  The next Sunday we were on vacation in Colorado and attended the only church we felt was appropriate in the area.  We attended there last year as well. 

 

This Sunday, we attended a church located in a strip mall a few minutes from our home.  I had found it on the internet and liked what I read about the church.  It was a small congregation (we really liked that) made up mostly of younger people.  In fact, I would venture to guess that most were younger than us--and we aren't all that old.  No one had as many children as we do, but they were all in awe of us (and we were even missing our oldest!)  The people were all very friendly as well.

 

However, the one thing that bothered me was the fact that the pastor (who was listed as an elder on the website) was younger than us and had only 1 child who was a baby.   The Bible tell us that deacons and elders should have proved themselves as husbands and fathers b/f being able to care for a flock.  Correct me if I am wrong here, but this young man hasn't had time to prove himself.  I cannot look at his family and deduce what kind of leader he is b/c up to this point, he has had very little to lead.  The fact that he has been to seminary does not make him an appropriate shepherd b/c that is not the requirement God has laid forth.

 

So, we continue to search.  We have seen a promising possiblity from a sister site to Vision Forum Ministries found here: http://www.visionforumministries.org/projects/ncfic/ 

There is a family listed as 'searching' that we may end up contacting.  Please pray for us as we continue our search for a home church and a church to call home.

 

ps--Lest anyone think we are totally against a church w/ a building and a pastor, let me clarify the why behind our desire to find a homechurch...the fellowship we were a part of these past 2.5 yrs has been sweet and wonderful and unmatched.  We see so many problems that have arisen in the churches of America simply b/c people have lost sight of the original church laid out for us in Acts.  We desire the simplicity of worship that comes from getting together w/ other believers and exhorting one another, praying for one another, and fellowshipping w/ one another.  We have no need to be "entertained" nor do we have to have a multitude of "programs" to help facilitate worship.  This simplicity seems rarely to be found outside of home churches b/c once a building takes the place of the home, many new problems arise--how to pay the bills, the upkeep of the building, etc.  We also do not believe ONE man should have the burden and the responsibility of taking care of ALL the people in a congregation.  There is much too much stress on the pastors of today to perform or get out of town.  They are expected to be the ones who save souls through their wonderfully laid out and entertaining sermons.  It is time for the men of today's church to step up and lead TOGETHER.  So, that in a very lacking nutshell is WHY we desire to find a home church atmosphere once again.

 

 


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Sep. 11, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous
you are REALLY full of yourself. From reading this it appears that you are looking more for someone to blast for not being what YOU think is right.
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Sep. 13, 2007 - Right on Amy!

Posted by Tosha (your KS friend!)
Hi, I haven't heard from you in a while and thought I would look at your blog to get caught up... and I am sooo glad I did! I love the thing 1 and 2 blogs!!! Funny!
My first three are all separated by 14 and 16 months so I have been in your shoes!!! :)
Aaron and I are in the same boat... church hunting..UHG!
I don't care for it either... I know that God will lead us to the place He has prepared, but I also know we may be led to other places first... We would love to find something similar to what you are describing... the community feeling... the closeness... sweet!
We have been praying for you....Take care!
Tosha
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Sep. 15, 2007 - homechurch

Posted by Anonymous
You are an enity within yourself....homechurch, home school...what else do you need..God help the poor pastor with ONLY one child....
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Sep. 15, 2007 - Hi

Posted by momofsix
It took our family seven years to find the right church. I can understand your difficulty. So many churches are interested in more church programs for the youth or building a new building that they don't consider it important to focus on the families within the church. Paul said that it would be the love of one another that would win the hearts of the outsiders (something like that). My husband and I finally found a church that was within a denomination, a big surprise. We had difficulty with the lack of accountability in some churches without the right structure of oversight. However, if the pastor we have now, wasn't an old time preacher, beyond retirement years, with old time mentality towards families, we wouldn't be this denominational church. His amazing leadership and great accountability by an awesome board of men, are of all the same mindset. This all filters down to the people. They are the same way. He supports our goals and vision as a large homeschool family. The church also supports the poor within the church. They show sincerity in their love and concern. I hope that you find a church that blesses you as much as the one that blesses us. I know how hard it is. In short, keep pressing on. I know God will show you one that will blesses you. Don't settle for less. Don't give up. Be encouraged. I will pray with you.

Father, please help my dear sister in Christ quickly find the right church that you want them to be part. Help it not to take up too much time and energy so that they can better focus on raising their family. Please impart wisdom and grace in this situation. I know how difficult it was for us. Make it easy for them. Direct them to a church that blesses their socks off, and one that can benefit from their talents and gifts. In Jesus name.

Edited by momofsix on Sep. 17, 2007 at 12:21 PM
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Sep. 15, 2007 - what does the bible say about judging others???

Posted by Anonymous
my goodness amy, do not judge the man simply because he has only one child so therefore he can not possibly be a true believer or a good leader....get your bible out and read about JUDGING others...
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Sep. 16, 2007 - praying for your search...

Posted by Darla
Hi Amy!

I stumbled across your posts after reading Sarah's blog on the Fair. I've been wondering how your family has been settling and have enjoyed being updated on your happenings.

I saw all the posts regarding churches and had to comment! I agree with you that many churches are missing the boat and not following Biblical example, but more after the pleasing of man with fancy buildings and exciting programs.

I didn't think your comment about the Pastor having only one child and a young one at that, was out of line. I felt you were expressing that he doesn't have time to show leadership history. I applaud you that you have a true desire to seek God's church and not be distracted by pomp and fanfare that entices the world. If the only issue holding your back is the timing in his family role, please don't let that keep you from the church. This man may truly have heart to Go and that is the main desire I would personally have from a pastor or church leader. If you feel that he has a teachable heart and he is being used by God and allowing the Holy spirit to work in and through him and other issue regarding the set up of the church is biblical, than I would encourage you to consider fellow shipping there.

And you know I support you in your homeschooling life, too! ; )

I did find a statement in someone else's comment about 'their family doing it right' and others should do likewise, is a cause for concern. The only example we have of perfection on earth is Christ's, and should only strive to be Christ-like, not 'Jones- like' or 'Johnson-like'. 1Thessalonnians 1: 4-6, and Galations 1:10 (regarding pleasing Christ not men)

I will continue to lift your family up in prayer in all the new adventures and changes you are facing!
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Sep. 16, 2007 - continued from above...

Posted by Darla
I"m new to this blogging thing- I hit post before I previewed!

I just wanted to clarify that momofsix may not have meant to imply that they are doing it right... but it is very easy for others to fall into that assumption when our words aren't clear or our leaders single out certain families as a model to live by. As Christians we can be as guilty as the world in trying to copy what someone else is doing without considering what God wants from us. Only He is faithful in completing the good work He started in us.



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Sep. 16, 2007 - a pastor's age

I have to agree. A pastor's age and life experience does affect his preaching and teaching. But I also agree that a teachable heart and spirit go a long way! Our pastor has the years but not the preaching experience. His teachable heart is incredible to see. We too would love to find a home church or a family integrated but we are totally comfortable with this church. They don't have a tonne of programs and they are totally open to God's leading.

I just wanted to say that church hunting is a hard thing to do. We've been where you are and will most likely be there again.

I really enjoyed reading the post and comments.

A fellow MOMYS.
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Sep. 17, 2007 - Just my 2c worth

Posted by short
If your anonymous 'comment leavers' looked at the scriptures and knew a bit more about the culture of the first century, they would know it would have been unheard of to have a young father of a baby be an 'elder'. The very word ELDER denotes AGE. Timothy himself was in his 40's compared with the Elders who were in their 60's. This does NOT judge Salvation or relationship with God, it is common sense and goes along with Scripture saying that the children of the elders themselves must be walking with God to prove that the elders, who have been faithful with their own children can now 'lead' others. The Patriarchal system has been lost over the years because of rebellion. I pray that you find a group of people you can meet with and not forsake the gathering of His people together. Don't get involved in a 'church'. The word is Ekklesia, not Kirke.
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Sep. 17, 2007 - Hi

Posted by momofsix
I am glad that you took my comment the right way. I never meant to imply that we are the perfect family. I just meant to discuss the years it took to find a right church,and the answer to our prayers to find a church that wasn't antichildren or antihomeschooling, were answered. When those of us who are going against the flow get so much opposition for what we are doing, it is refreshing to find church leadership that doesn't blast us, but, rather supports us. I wanted to encourage you that you will find it, but press on...I am glad that you took my comment it the right way. I do hope it encourages.

By the way, I liked short's comment. She is right on with that. We need to examine the leadership and see that they fall under the scripture requirements for an elder. There is wisdom in that scripture she refers. Also, Ignore those who yell out "judging". I am so tired of political correctness or tolerance in the church. The bible says that we are to separate ourselves from the world in the way we live. However, some people's comments just demonstrate how much of the world is really in the church. So, again, just ignore those who yell the tolerance or "judging" speeches. Their finger usually point back to themselves. God bless you.

Edited by momofsix on Sep. 17, 2007 at 12:16 PM
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Oct. 27, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by spencerschool
I just recently found your blog and was reading this post and found it very interesting. We too have just moved. My husband is fulltime Ms Army National Guard and has taken over a new Armory. We left a fellowship of like minded believers. We call it home church but there are about 30 families. We have had the hardest time finding another group of believers to assemble with. We have just been driving back an hour and a half to have church. We, too, follow an Acts New Testament plan for church. When we talk to people about church here, they all want to push there youth groups and activities. That is fine for some but we just have no interest in entertainment. We want to serve and worship without all the fluff. I hope that made sense.
Blessings,
Trixi
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Nov. 8, 2007 - from a momy

Posted by Anonymous
Amy we have found this to be the case more then once with very young preacher's and elders.It makes it very difficult to speak to them as they are alot of time no matter how educated by the bible are still in the baby stage of growing . My dh finds it very difficult to go to them when we are no where on the same page as us. Amy keep writing what you feel some of these people are nuts .I love your new pictures Wanda7blessings
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