Old Sawmill Homestead
Jan. 14, 2006
NAIS or National Animal Identification System

I will put a couple of links at the bottom for links to articles that explain it from a legal perspective, this is just my perspective....

 

Life per my original post under NAIS.

 

Along about March of last year my brother and his wife moved to town and gave us 3 hens as pets for the kids. He had to file 2 sets of paperwork, one to notify the government of where the hens were and one to notify them that their premises was no longer keeping animals as they were moving to town. Total forms - 4

I, within 24 hours, had to file 2 sets of paperwork, one to obtain a premises id number, giving name, SS#, address, and GPS number with the state and feds. I had to file 3 forms for the hens. Total forms - 4

 

Then my dh said, if you have to be here to feed 3 hens, why not get a few more. So we and the neighbors ordered 100 chickens. They then had to file 1 form setting up a premises and 50 forms for owning the chicks + 50 forms since they would be ‘off premises’ boarding at my house. We had to file 50 forms reporting our 50 new chicks. Total forms - 151

 

Four of the chicks died in the first week, I had to file 3 incident reports, my neighbor had to file 1. Total reports - 4

 

In May, it was Mandy’s 8th birthday and all she wanted for her birthday was a pretty little kid named Snowflake, so we went a little flakey and got Snowflake and a nanny named Carmen, needed to file 2 forms. Carmen didn’t work out, beautiful goat who was terrified of children and one day tried to run away taking Snowflake with her and I had to file 2 incident reports. So she went to live with a neighbor and we traded for a new nanny named Paige. Both the neighbor and I had to file 2 report each, one for the got going, one for the goat coming. Paige is a sweetheart. I only had to lift her into the stanchion 3 times before she decided to do it all by herself. My neighbor asked if we could let our goats come over to help with weed control, they did that for about 2 weeks. (14 incident reports X2 goats). We were getting almost a gallon of milk a day before we dried her off to go ‘visiting’ (both the neighbor and I had to fill out incident reports - 4). She did get out of the yard 3 times (3 incident reports X 2) and enjoyed going for walks with us once a week all summer (12 incident reports X 2) We are now hoping for triplets in the spring. The goats came home in November, requiring another 4 reports. Total reports - 74.

 

Then one day I got a call in town, neighbor dogs had gotten into my chickens. I came home to find dead chickens all over my property and scattered down the road. We were devastated and filled the incident reports. 8 for the dead chickens and 4 for the ones that left the property. Total - 12

 

My dog thought what they had done looked like fun, so began killing chickens too. So far she has killed 8. Resulting in 8 reports for dead chickens and 2 for the two she tried to hide in the woods as they left the premises. Total - 10

 

On Labor day weekend, the neighbors came over and we killed 57 chickens. Dividing the paper work, we still had to file 57 forms between us. Total - 57

 

One of my chickens liked my neighbor. Every day she would make a beeline for his barnyard (he gives trail r ides, forms went in for each time the horses left and returned). I had to file 1 report for her leaving and one for coming every day. Oh we tried to keep her home, but she was a little escape artist! 90 forms X 2 = 180 for that one chicken.

 

I had 3 chickens die for no apparent reason or from injury from either other chickens, or one punctured himself on a wire. 3 reports.

 

This year we have filed 499 reports, tagged all animals, purchased the equipment and software to do this and it hasn’t even been 12 months since we started. All we wanted to do was have a few animals to teach the kids a little about responsibility and grow some of our own food.

Life under NAIS is for the birds!

 

Here are links so you can go check it out for yourself. Is this the America you want?

 

http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/index.shtml Government site that tells what they are planning.

 

http://www.countrysidemag.com/current.htm#article4 Article that explains what it all means.

 

http://homesteadingtoday.com/vb/showthread.php?t=113760 Post on Homesteading Today by a lawyer that give a great analysis from a legal standpoint.


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Jan. 14, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by PRMama


You are kidding. Tell me you are kidding. This is the funniest thing I've heard all week. Are you serious????

-gena


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Jan. 14, 2006 - I wish I was joking.

Posted by SDBookMom


I am serious. And it HURTS! I am not a big, bad, government under my bed, boogie man, kind of person. But this one has me .... mad, upset, angry, scared, nervous, WHAT CAN I DO CUZ THIS IS DUMB! all rolled into one.

Go to USDA.gov and type in NAIS. It is real. WI is a $5000 fine starting Jan. 1 for not registering. TX is talking a $1000 per day fine for not tagging.

Scary, YOU BET! Funny, I hope so. Someday, when they don't get away with it.

Cheryl


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Jan. 14, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous


JUST what we all need--a little more GOVERNMENT in our lives.......

I'm sorry......don't they have 'bigger fish to fry'????????????

Lisa


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Jan. 14, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by mama0moon


Oh my gosh. I knew it would be bad but your entry makes it real. I'll be sending people by to see just how this NAIS-ty system effects real people.


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Jan. 14, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous


Maybe the silver lining in all this insanity is that with all the paperwork, the system may be overloaded and collapse. Indiana's deadline is Sept. 1, 2006 and My DH and I have talked about filing so much paperwork that it is beyond what the understaffed Indiana govn. can handle.

Perhaps,if all our letters to representatives and newspapers don't help, we can just keep sending form after form after form (like the ones for your renegade chicken!)

Thanks for the personal viewpoint--those of us who have been talking about and trying to fight NAIS needed to hear a "real-life" story!


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Jan. 15, 2006 - Yuck!

Posted by Anonymous


The thought of having to file a form everytime I take my horse on or off my property is overwhelming. My neighbors can't keep their cows home. They come to my house all the time. If they have to file paperwork on a whole dairy herd every day they will have even less time to fix the fence!


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Jan. 15, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous


this is insane. i have blogged about it myself, and i will write to all of my representatives about how ridiculous it is. i'm curious, though, is your narrative about the "incident reports" your interpretation of what is to happen, or did you read on the NAIS website the detail of what will actually be required? For example, if your neighbors did, in fact, get chickens to keep on your farm, would they ahve to hav etheir own premisis ID? What about the chickens in the road-- would you need to actually file the form for them being off property?

Not that I am discounting anything you say. It is a stupid, stupid system no matter how you look at it. I am just planning to write the same type of narrative about my own animals when I write my representatives, and if these detailed, planned procedures are drafted and posted somewhere, I'd like to refer to them specifically.

Thanks for taking the time to do this.


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Jan. 15, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Harriette


...this is NOT funny - I'm ordering my razor wire and a lifetime supply of shotgun shells this week..................they can't make me!

can they?

:(
Harriette


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Jan. 15, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by SDBookMom


This is based on my understanding of what would be required from the USDA website. I am not a lawyer and I haven't seen the actual forms, so I could have mis-interpreted what they were saying. I do know my neighbors would have had to file this year as they did keep some of the chicks there part time and got 2 kids. Dying off premises did seem to have to be counted. I heard from a gal who has a pretty large operation and for them it is about the same paperwork as they have already as they don't have to count every individual animal/poultry. Just turn in lot groups once a year. This will hit the little guys the worst because we have to do every animal.

And all this doesn't even begin to cover my views on the Constitutionality of this.

Cheryl


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Jan. 16, 2006 - This is crazy!

Posted by Beth


But I'm not surprised either, with all the stuff my hubby's been telling me he's reading of lately. I'm sorry for all of your hassles, and dreading the thought of this becoming status quo~
blessings~
Beth


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Jan. 23, 2006 - NAIS is pronounced Nazi

Posted by pubwvj


Believe it. NAIS is bad, bad, bad. I've been writing my congress critters, newspapers and others about this since 2004. If you want to stop this and protect your right to homestead and farm then take action now. I wrote on my blog at http://sugarmtnfarm.com/blog/2006/01/nais-marking-beasts.htm about how this will hurt small farmers and homesteaders. Learn the facts. Contact everyone you can about this. Spread the word. Get people upset and aggitated so they take notice of just how bad this is going to be. This will affect everyone, even people who don't keep animals because their food prices will go up.


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Feb. 24, 2006 - NoNais.org

Posted by Silas


I thought I was going to get her before Walter, but I gues he beat me here too. An update, though, now you can check out his WWW.NONAIS.ORG action site for opposing NAIS. A lot of topical stuff and breaking news about NAIS.

Silas


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