Waldens Wits
Friday, July 14, 2006 at 12:00 PM
Where Did We Get Grades?

Posted in Homeschooling

In years past, especially around family and other folks who weren't quite sure about our homeschooling, we would answer questions about our progress with statements like, "Oh, she's in third grade now." I hadn't really considered the implications of what we were saying until a year or two ago.

Grades like second grade and eighth grade, and year designations of freshman and senior are based on the egg carton principle. 7 Year-olds should flock with other 7 year-olds and 14 year-olds should flock with other 14 year-olds. Doug Phillips said in one of his speeches at our state conference this year that this concept was based out of Ernst Haeckel's theory of embryonic recapitulation of evolution. G. Stanley Hall took Haeckel's theory and applied it to child development. Answers in Genesis profiles Hall's theories in their article Evolution in American education and the demise of its public school system by Lael Weinberger.

While a public fight was going on over what would be taught in the public school science curriculum, evolution was being applied to the schools in a more subtle manner. In the late 1800s, Granville Stanley Hall was a prominent educator at Johns Hopkins University. He believed in evolution and was a leader in the developing field of psychology. In 1904, he published a book on adolescence, advocating a new theory of child development based on evolutionary recapitulation. This theory was soon to be applied to classrooms across America.

Hall’s recapitulation belief was that child development reflected evolutionary ancestry; certain ages, he argued, represented stages of evolutionary development. Infancy and early childhood corresponded to early “pre-civilized” mankind just grown out of its animal stage. Ages 6–7 were “crisis” years, where children could enter school and leave the “pre-civilized” state behind. Ages 8–12 corresponded to “the world of early pigmies.” Ages 13–18 were what he declared to be the stage of adolescence. This period, Hall claimed, was critical, as the child entered a “stormy” ancient civilization stage, and finally grew into full civilization.

Grades, as you can see, are based on evolutionary theory, where children graduate from one grade to another, recapitulating the evolutionary chain. Instead of a biblical model, our public -- and private -- school system is based on a framework devised from man's imaginative and quite false theories of origins.

Today, the closest we'll come to grades in addressing our children's progress is saying, "he's equal to a 5th grade level in reading and equal to a 4th grade level in math." I'm not even sure if we should use the comparison. Still, with family reunions approaching, I'm not sure we can avoid them. I'll close out with another quote from the same article, which has some excellent food for thought.

Hall’s book was a major influence on the public schools as age segregation became more emphasized. Before Hall, the “stormy” period of adolescence was virtually unknown. John Quincy Adams, later to become US president, received a diplomatic appointment overseas for the federal government when he was only fourteen years old. For those who acquired a college education in the 1700s, thirteen-year-old freshmen were not uncommon. But Hall made little allowance for the fact that children mature differently. Now all six-year-olds, seven-year-olds and eight-year-olds get their own classes, learn to stick with their age group peers, and it is regarded as odd—if not suspicious—if a ten-year-old associates with a fifteen-year-old. Today it is often a terrible thing for a child to be ahead of his peers—public school children must fit into Hall’s evolutionary mold. (Perhaps this is why we don’t see children like John Quincy Adams anymore.)

Oh, but you will...

Comments

Friday, July 14, 2006 - Interesting!

Posted by jaminacema

I bet if you told the relatives "She in the middle of the the world of early pigmies stage." you would get some raised eyebrows and interesting comments! LOL This is really interesting. One of the many things I love about homeschooling is that my kids are exposed to people of all ages, races, etc. They are not stuck in a room with 18 -28 other kids that society deems as similar to them possible. I believe if my kids can learn to work with the siblings God gave them they can handle about any relationship in the future! Great post.

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Friday, July 14, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by OreoSouza

Wow! Excellent article, Steve! I'm going to show this one to my husband.

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by JenIG

this in an excellent article!

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 - Thanks...

Posted by His4life

for making me think! I am also going to share this with my husband!:)

Have a great weekend and God bless!:)

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Sunday, July 16, 2006 - Great Topic!

Posted by jacobsacademy

I despise the whole "grade" thing - it drives me crazy. Our society is obssessed with sorting and segregating and this is just another arena for that; but how else would compulsory schooling survive without being able to "control its masses"? That's just it - it's a formula to control.

I know exactly what you mean about your family reunion; family events can generate mixed emotions for me - I often want to say some pretty profound comments - but usually pageant smile instead and give a response something to this affect, "Well, if we allowed them to be in a compulsory school environment, they would be in yadda, yadda grades........". The topic of conversation is almost always changed when I utter "compulsory"......(giggle). I love how that makes them all uncomfortable and then somehow makes them "think" outside the box.

LOVED the "pygmy stage grade" comment..........LOL!!!!

The other areas that "age and grades" enter our lives is both Sunday School and sports.

Great, great post!
Harriette Jacobs

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Sunday, July 16, 2006 - Food for Thought, Indeed

Posted by Stephanie10

Neither my husband nor I had ever heard this evolutionary basis for grades, but when we began homeschooling, we instinctively protected our children from grade labels. I'd usually answer something like, "Well, I really don't know what grade she's in. She's only eight, but she reads at an upper high school level. However, she's still doing second grade math, and I'm not sure what grade to classify the history and science we're doing."
Now this same daughter, when asked her grade, simply responds with her age, realizing that's what is actually being asked. However, people *are* curious about when she will graduate, and that's a little trickier. Any good suggestions for that one?

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Monday, July 17, 2006 - Graduation

Posted by SteveWalden

I don't know about graduation credits. My oldest is still 10, so I have a ways to go. When I was talking to Scott Somerville over at Somerschool, he mentioned his youngest had enough credits to graduate at 15. I'm not sure what he's using for accreditation.

I'm sure some states regulate this more heavily than others, too. That's reason alone to check with HSLDA. My best advice would be to talk to your homeschool support group, if you have one, because they're local and know what the requirements are for your area. Otherwise, you might try Gena. If she doesn't know, she will know who does.

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Monday, July 17, 2006 - about graduation

Posted by KyMentor

This might be late, but I was random blogging and came to your blog and this conversation really peaked my interest. I have graduated one of my own, helped mentor/tutor 15 more through graduation and have a senior this year. I have always told parents that while you keep an eye on your states credit requirements, you pay more attention to the child.

No one told you when stop nursing, when to potty train or when to let them drive, you just knew when it was time for that child. I see graduation the same way. My oldest had the requirements knocked out before she was 14, but she wasn't ready for full-time college or living on her own, so I didn't think she was ready to graduate. She did however start taking a couple college classes and got a job. I would have been comfortable with her graduating at 16, but she decided to wait until 17. Right after graduation she left for a college more than 3 hours away and has lived independently ever since. She is now almost 21 and will be moving to NYC on her own in a few weeks. Each child is different, I know my second will not be independent by 17(hopefully by 21 :) ), but my third could easily be by 16-- he is very much like the first!

Anyway, you will just KNOW when they are ready for the next stage of independence, which is all highschool graduation is. Sorry to be so long in your comment box.

Peace,
Sandie

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Monday, July 17, 2006 - Great Thoughts

Posted by SteveWalden

Thanks, Sandie. I appreciate you chipping in with your experience. You're welcome back here any time!

Steve

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Friday, July 21, 2006 - another view

Posted by Anonymous

Trey here,
I like grades because it assists in healthy competition. Children compare themselves in order to see where they fit in, where they excell, and where they are behind. I think this is a good thing as healthy competition brings out our best. When we give grades, we are testing how much the student learned as well as HOW WELL THE CURRICULUM AND TEACHER TAUGHT!!!! That second part is very important too. Just thought I would post a little kind disagreement here. Great post, I just have another perspective.

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Friday, July 21, 2006 - Response to Trey

Posted by SteveWalden

Trey,

Dissenting opinions are always welcome here, as long as all points are made with respect and honor. Dialog is critical to understanding each other and letting ideas improve our ability to teach and raise our children. I don't have it all together, and neither does anyone else.

I also appreciate your involvement in the education of your children. From one dad to another, way to go!

My response to your comments is here.

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