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• Feb. 8, 2007 - Why I Am Not a Feminist, Entry #2,945

Recently, I got into an ill-advised conversation with some feminists at Dawn Eden’s blog…


IN WHICH, Susannah learned about sex-positive feminists, and laughed out loud at the very idea that they would feel the need to distinguish themselves by such terminology.


With all the linkage to Amanda Marcotte’s blog going around the internet lately, I think the lightbulb has finally flickered on above my naïve little head.  I figured out what feminists mean when they claim to be “sex-positive.”  (No, I’m not providing links to the Marcotte blog.  Believe me, you do *not* want to descend into that particular sewer.  FYI, she's the newly hired [possibly newly fired] blogmaster for the John Edwards '08 campaign.)


“Sex-positive” doesn’t mean “positive about sex,” as most native-born English speakers might assume.  No, because allowing the term its *obvious* meaning would render it practically unnecessary.  Most people in relative emotional health are positive about sex.  Of course, that is why I was quite amused to learn the term might not apply to some feminists.  Who in her right mind would label herself “sex-negative”?


No, as usual with feminists, the “positive” part has been co-opted and twisted to mean exactly the opposite.  Judging by Marcotte’s blogging, it actually means “is fond of obscenity,” “reserves the right to talk and dress like a prostitute,” and “views children as a punishment for sex.”


It’s sort of like the redefinition of “choice.”  You can choose anything, including killing your own offspring, with their complete approval…as long as you stay in line with feminist dogma.  The moment you repudiate the ideology by word or by deed…sorry, you are a nothing but a sex-negative misogynistic fundamentalist tool of the patriarchy, too ignorant and backward to be aware of the largesse you have already received from the Holy Feminist Movement.  (In the aforementioned conversation, I was informed in the usual roundabout way that holding to the ideals that produced the U.S. Constitution makes me a feminist by default.)


If sex-positivity means having a serious case of sailor mouth and an unladylike deportment, we can only presume that, in the feminist bizarro world at least, to keep one’s intimacies intimate, one's self-respect intact, and one’s speech clean is to be sex-negative.


Of course.


 “Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter!”


--Isaiah the prophet

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• Feb. 8, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Courtney
I consider myself a feminist and I completely disagree with these nuts that you're referencing. Maybe, like many other "good words" of days gone by, "feminism" has been co-opted by nut-cases.

"Feminism," to me, means having equal rights under the law, the right to earn the same amount of money for the same work, the right to own property, to vote, etc. Feminism brought all of that to us. Is it really the fault of feminism if some people to crazy things in its name? Think of all the murderous people who use religion as their raison d'etre.

I wish we had a word that means what feminism means to many, reasonable women.

As for the sex-positive crowd -- I couldn't agree with you more!
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• Feb. 8, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by SusannahCox
"'Feminism,' to me, means having equal rights under the law, the right to earn the same amount of money for the same work, the right to own property, to vote, etc."

For me, all these things come under the heading of "human rights." They aren't necessarily woman-specific and the Constitution makes them available to all. I can be "for" all these things without ever having to take on the feminist label and associating myself with morality-free people, thank heaven.
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• Feb. 8, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Tonya
I laughed. And I out in my own two cents worth over at my place.

Great post:):):).
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• Feb. 8, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous
That was supposed to be "put" not "out". My fingers are faster than my brain. Or maybe it's the other way around - I hope:):):)
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• Feb. 9, 2007 - Need a new name for myself

Posted by shaunms
So you know I am liberal, and feminist. But man, those 2 liberal feminist bloggers are just yuck-o, and I guess I would claim myself to be sex-negative if that were necessary to distinguish myself from them.
Why is it that, in my experience, the "sex-positive" people I've read are so angry? Are they not getting enough sex? Are their fishnets giving them a wedgie? Did the nipple piercing get caught in the towel loops again? (Plus, can I say that the writer/editor in me finds "sex-positive" to be a really goofy formulation for an compound adjective, and slightly connotive of testing positive for some kind of disease?)
And the comments -- ugh! Of course I've read just as bad on all sides of the b'sphere. I choose to think that they represent a very small group of people with way too much time on their hands.
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• Feb. 9, 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Angela
"And the comments -- ugh! Of course I've read just as bad on all sides of the b'sphere. I choose to think that they represent a very small group of people with way too much time on their hands."

Shaums- they do have too much time on their hands and they also have an agenda. They want everyone to think that they represent ALL feminists and they DON'T. You even consider yourself a liberal feminist and you wouldn't go near as far as they do. Feminists like them need a SERIOUS reality check!!
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