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| AMEN TO THAT! Too many people believe their doctors blindly, and it is never good to believe anyone blindly. I gave in to the pressure to get my kids a vaccine two years ago, and I regreted it. My parents live on a farm, and I thought maybe it would be smart to get the kids a plain tetnus shot since they like to run around barefoot up there during the summer. I found out that you can't just get ONE vaccine, but they all come in the 3 shot cocktail. So, I let them give that to my kids. My 5 year old had a HUGE, red, swollen, hot, painful lump that took up his whole thigh, for 2 weeks. I have pictures of it! I felt SOOO bad that I even had them give the kids that darned shot.
I was diagnosed with tourettes syndrome when I was in the first grade, which has to do with something in my brain. I have also been very proned to getting bad colds by whole life. I can't help but wonder if it had something to do with my vaccines as a baby. Babies little bodies are so fresh, and so vulnerable, why someone would pump them full of that junk is beyond me. I read that a baby's brain isn't fully developed until around 6 months of age. It would make sense that vaccines would interfere with that, if that statement is true. As you can see, I could keep going and going on this subject..hehe! Thanks for posting that info for everyone to see! Maybe I'll post something on it too, and post the picture of my son's leg with it. I have to recommend a book to those wanting to search out the truth. There is a book called <a href="http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php?page=articles/sanctity_blood.php">The Sanctity of Human Blood by Tim O'shea.</a> It has been eye opening. He also has a large seminar that covers everything in depth. It is really good!! I have the seminar on cd, and the information is very helpful. God Bless! Ali Edited by Aligirl on Nov. 8, 2006 at 4:12 PM |
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Nov. 8, 2006 - Untitled Comment
 Posted by babymakers |
| A very reliable source is this DVD. It is made by a woman who was an ER doctor for years. This video is 3 hours long and doesn't use her opinion but uses government documented facts. Everything is straight from the paperwork the medical associations have made and it is documented so you can check up on it. It is VERY imformative. There is nothing exciting about this. JUST FACTS. It is about $25 dollars and worth every penny. Here is a link to it at one place. I got mine off of Amazon.
Otherwise just consider the fact that GOD made our bodies and he doesn't need help. Also, consider the source of who is saying it is ok for you to get shots. Your doctor is making a living and getting paid extra for the shots to be given to your child. The school also makes money off of shot records being completly filled out. I put alot of stock into Christian researchers that are not making any money off of this subject but still care enough to tell us the dangers. You can't trust unsaved billionairs. You can trust Christians who are not making money off of this. Plus, the training doctors get every year is from the pharmaceutical companies. You would think when a doctor was going to learn about updated medicine and health that it would be an unbiased source but it is not. They are getting taught by drug companies. That sounds more like a biased type of brainwashing to me! |
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Nov. 8, 2006 - Hysteria Abounds
| Posted by Anonymous |
| Your decision not to vaccinate your children was your decision to make, but trying to convince other parents not to vaccinate, especially those riding the fence on the topic, is reckless and unfortunate.
Vaccinations have saved millions of lives - there is absolutely no denying that. There is also no denying that a small number of people, mostly children, have died as a result of immunizations. As is the case with bee stings and peanut butter, there's sometimes no way to know if a person is going to have a severe allergic reaction to something until it's too late. Tragic, yes, but because some people are allergic to something is no reason to be alarmist about it. Would you tell the world about the horrors of *gasp* eggs just because several thousand people have died as a result of eating them? No. Your views on medicines and vaccines are alarmist and downright laughable. I hope none of your family members become ill with something not curable by herbs. That would, indeed, be tragic. SH |
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Nov. 8, 2006 - Dear Anonymous,
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| You said this-
"Vaccinations have saved millions of lives" Please show me your proof of that statement. I can show you plenty saying the opposite. You have a better chance of hurting your child than helping them with vaccinations. I am so sorry to see that you are only quoting what you have been told and have not done any real research yourself. At least this is my opinion because you did not leave any way to search out your opinion or give any facts. Edited by babymakers on Nov. 8, 2006 at 4:55 PM |
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Nov. 8, 2006 - Oh ya and one more thing....
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| There are plenty of people in Africa or small tribes in rainforests that think the witch doctor is really going to help them. The people don't know any better. They are not stupid, just brainwashed.
Also, they told women for 50 years that x rays were safe during pregnancy and now we know they were wrong. What about blood letting? You know the way George Washington died? They didn't take it lightly when people started saying this in not right. People were also hurt when they tried to say the earth is round and not flat. So what makes this any different? Go ahead and laugh because someday *hopefully soon* this will also be laughed at as a stupid medical mistake. Unfortunatly until then I will have to deal with people that mock me because they don't know any better. Maybe instead of hoping my family never gets sick with something that is not curable with herbs you should be hoping that you never kill your child or yourself with a vaccination. And by the way what I believe is Biblical. God doesn't need mans help improving on his creation. He did a fine job. Everytime we try to fix anything God did we just make it worse. Now, do you see what you did? Got me all wound up! LOL Edited by babymakers on Nov. 8, 2006 at 5:03 PM |
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Nov. 8, 2006 - See? Plenty of Information and Mis-Information to go around...
| Posted by Anonymous |
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Thanks to the internet, there is convincing 'evidence' to support ANY claim nowadays. I guess you just have to make the right decision for you and your family. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccinations http://www.bact.wisc.edu/Microtextbook/index.php?name=Sections&req=viewarticle&artid=201&page=1 "Microbiologists, physicians, and proponents of modern medicine will attribute the decline in reported cases of disease to the increase in mass vaccination. It is much better to vaccinate and take the much smaller risk of complications from the vaccine than not to vaccinate at all." and "Along with the eradication of smallpox, vaccinations are responsible for the elimination of poliomyelitis from the Western Hemisphere." http://www.metrokc.gov/health/childcare/safe-imms.htm SH |
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Nov. 8, 2006 - For the record
| Posted by Anonymous |
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I don't happen to agree with your ideas about vaccines, but that doesn't mean I mock you. I just don't think you are in any position to try to convince others not to vaccinate their children. This is a very personal, important, and potentially life-altering decision, and you will be able to find facts to back up both sides of the argument. That's the problem with statistics - they can be molded into whatever the person presenting the statistics want them to illustrate. I do agree that vaccines are potentially harmful. But I believe that about just about everything. There is ALWAYS going to be those who have reactions to vaccines. But as I pointed out before, percentage-wise, the number is insignificant. Granted, if my children were part of the statistics, I wouldn't feel the number was insignificant, but thank goodness they're not. I think on this topic, we're just bound to disagree. SH |
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Nov. 8, 2006 - <i>Untitled Comment</i>
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| It is funny that you said you didn't mock me when the title to your comment was "Hysteria Abounds" You should either pay more attention or not lie.
I checked out those links. Between what you pasted and the link there were some great comments but that is not evidence. Just because there is a definition at wikipedia doesn't make it true. In fact if this was a true statement then how do you explain the first fact on my blog that says - "1871-72-England vaccinated 98% of people aged 2-50. It then had the worst EVER smallpox outbreak. 45,000 deaths. In Germany they did they same thing to 96% of the people and had 125,000 deaths." So much for the vaccine eliminating the smallpox. Sounds more like it caused it. My video that I mentioned in one of the above comments talks about a DVD. My DVD is currently lent out so I can't get the statistics or find out the documentation but there are charts showing the history of these illnesses and the vaccinations coming into use. They did not put an end to the disease. And I do have a right to try to get people not to vaccinate their children. You don't need a medical license to do research any more than you need to be ordained to tell people about Christ. I have a "freedom of speech" ya know. Let's look at Autism. Here are some statisticscomparing now to the 90's- 1 in 166 births will be autistic 1 to 1.5 million Americans have it Fastest-growing developmental disability 10 - 17 % annual growth U.S. population increase: 13% Disabilities increase: 16% Autism increase: 172% Do you find it strange that as our children get more shots these type of statistics go up? This is just ONE disease. These are not insignificant numbers. How many people do we know with polio, smallpox or something similiar? I don't personally know any. Now, how many people do I know with a problem caused by shots? Let me start counting in my brain..1..2..3...4 ...I just thought of four people in about 30 seconds. It doesn't seem like such an insignifigant # now does it? If I was a betting woman (which I'm not) I would stake my LIFE on the fact that you have a better chance of causing a disease than preventing one by getting vaccinated. I also thought of something else. Above you mentioned about you hope that my family never gets a disease that can't be healed by herbs I want you to know I don't believe there is any disease that can't be healed UNLESS it is put there by God. Edited by babymakers on Nov. 8, 2006 at 6:22 PM |
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Nov. 9, 2006 - Untitled Comment
 Posted by DanielleW |
| Wow on those statistics. Kind of scary. |
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Nov. 9, 2006 - Lots of comments!
 Posted by TwmCrm2001 |
| Wow, lots of comments by anonymous people! This is always a hair raising subject. Which is why I don't say much about it. I have to trust my husband in this area. He is the leader of the home, and he has made the decision, after much thought and prayer, to vaccinate our children. Our children have never had a reaction, in fact, they don't even run fevers. I guess we are lucky in that area. We researched the Amish communities when making our decision. Right now there are alot of diseases breaking out that children are dying from- diseases that 'everyone else' doesn't get becuase of vaccines. Diptheria and polio are a couple. I think this comes down to the parent's decision over all. Our children have not suffered negatively for it. In fact, the two oldest, (my oldest son after the age of 2- he had a thyroglossal duct cyst that was causing problems) are some of the healthiest kids I know. One thing we did do was wait until they were a bit older to vaccinate them. Our two boys were tiny little things, and we waited to vaccinate them until they were older and bigger. I know this is a hot topic- but once again, as a parent, you have the God-given authority to choose what you believe is best for your children. The main thing it came down to for us, was that we are in the ministry. We are around sick people all the time- in hospitals, nursing homes, etc...so our children are, too- they are by our side almost every minute of the day. They are exposed to alot of different things out there. I trusted my husband's leadership, and I haven't looked back. |
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Nov. 9, 2006 - Untitled Comment
| Posted by TwmCrm2001 |
| I have to write more thing. I just visited the website that you put on your post- the one about the 'satanic vaccinations'. I came away very disturbed in my soul. Not about us giving our children vaccinations, but about the way that they presented everything. First off, I would be very careful what I believed on that site. I believe that the verses they used they used were totally out of context, and I also didn't see anything documenting the pictures, stories, etc.... If I am going to go to that extreme, I want to see hard facts. Anyone can go on a website and write whatever they want. They were very negative- calling people like us, "Satanists" for vaccinating our children. Hmmm.... the verses that they used didn't make any sense, pertaining to what they were talking about. I am sorry, I believe that you get to Heaven by being saved through grace through the blood. They made it sound like anyone who gave out shots were going to hell, and anyone who gave their children shots would end up in the same place. I know several nurses who have been saved by believing in Jesus Christ for salvation, and I know for a *fact*, based on the Holy Word of God, that they are going to Heaven when they die- not hell, because they gave out vaccinations. It seemed, on that website, that they had made vaccinations, home births, and breastfeeding a religion. I am all for going natural- but when it takes our focus off of Christ, and makes us start condemning other Christians and saying they are going to hell for vaccinating, or bottle feeding, then I believe it becomes a sin. I am more interested in training my children in the way of the Lord- not saying people are going to burn in hell for vaccinating. |
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Nov. 9, 2006 - Untitled Comment
| Posted by babymakers |
| My first question would be who did the research on the Amish? I would really like to see that. I know one disease mentioned was polio. I wish I could get the documentation for this but my DVD is lent out but polio outbreaks have stemmed from people that get that polio vaccine. They get it and then other people get infected from them. One of the things I mentioned above is the fact that Dr. Jonas Salk admitted that mass inoculation causes most polio cases since 1961. He developed the vaccine. If polio fixes this then why is he saying it causes it?
I understand that you have to follow your husband. I think you are very wise for waiting until your children are older. That could be why you have not had problems. They give the same dosage amount to a newborn that they give to an adult so it is really smart that you waited. Maybe you should watch that video I mentioned before you make anymore decisions about it. Also, does your husband know they use "fetal tissue" in the rubella shot or which is in with the MMR? Wether or not you think vaccinations are a good idea or not, using dead babies is just as wrong as Michael J Fox wanting to do stem cell research to cure his disease. |
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Nov. 9, 2006 - Untitled Comment
| Posted by babymakers |
| It turns out that the chickenpox and hepatitis shots also use aborted human babies.
This is an This one is from the MMR insert. This was from baby lungs or "human diploid lung fibroblasts" as they like to call them. Here is the Hepatitis B insert This one says "Human Plasma" Here is the link for more inserts if anyone wants to look into it. This is an interesting article I am going to stop researching now because this is making me feel physically ill. I can barely keep from crying and have a heavy feeling in my chest. If any "prolifer" or Christian can explain to me why I should vaccinate my child is going to have an even harder time explaining it to God. |
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Nov. 9, 2006 - Untitled Comment
| Posted by elliott10 |
| Danielle was right, we do think alike. Vaccinations are a hard one, we have not vaccinated our younger set and I am fully convinced it was the right thing to do. But I think of it like this "For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand" Romans 14:2-4
For me, knowing that they were made with fetal tissue was enough. I think we must speak the truth in love, sharing what God has graciously revealed to us through our study. But God leads us all down different paths, we must be fully convinced in our own minds. But I do think that humility and graciousness are in order :) |
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Nov. 9, 2006 - Untitled Comment
| Posted by TwmCrm2001 |
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I copied here what I responded with on my own blog. I guess I have more research to do- which will involve getting all those inserts again. I didn't know about the aborted babies thing- I *always* read through the inserts that come with the shots, and have *never* read anything about human parts being in them. More research for me to do..... As for the site, They had a verse about all these people going to hell, and they said in big, bold letters, "Vaccinators beware!!!" With a picture of hell underneath it. (or something along those lines.) also, when I clicked on one of the links to read stories about vaccinations, there was the sermon, "sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" playing the whole time- about sinners going to hell, and only being spared because God was holding them by a thread.... you know what I am talking about. my impression was that they were playing that sermon because they believed that the people who gave vaccinations and had their children vaccinated were all going to hell. ...shrug.... I told you this was a hot topic! I will look into those ingredients more. The first time we gave shots, we asked for each of the inserts, and I read over each and every ingredient that they were putting in my child's body. I swear to you- I read *nothing* about human parts being in them. Maybe it has all changed in the four years since, but I will just have to ask for them all over again and do more research. |
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Nov. 9, 2006 - Dear Elliot10,
| Posted by babymakers |
| That is a good verse for me to remember in many, many circumstances. Not this one though. God's people are hurting their children and they either don't know any better or even worse some of them are willingly ignorant. It is so sad. If it was a subject that nobody was getting physically hurt that would be one thing but it's not that way.
And now that I have discovered that there are more shots made using infants that were aborted....groan.... |
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Nov. 10, 2006 - Inserts
| Posted by TwmCrm2001 |
| Yes, I am positive that I got the inserts. Back when we were debating whether or not to give shots, when we took our son in for his two month checkup, we told the nurse practicioner that we weren't going to give him shots until he was older, because we didn't know much about them. She then went to all the boxes of shots that he would be getting, got the inserts out, and gave us each one. I took each one home, and diligently looked through each and every ingredient that was in them. These were the actual inserts from the boxes of shots- like the inserts that they put in boxes of medicines, prescriptions, etc... I just know from experience, that alot of myth and hype surrounds big issues like this. That's why I would be careful *where* I get my sources. The next time around, I will once again ask for the inserts, and read each and every ingredient. I talked to hubby last night. He said, "Ask for the inserts next time. If there is aborted baby in them, we just won't give them to our kids. End of story." So that's what we will do. The next time I get the actual inserts, I will list the ingredients here for all to read. |
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Nov. 10, 2006 - <i>Untitled Comment</i>
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| I just want to clarify that the last links I gave were FROM the huge, namebrand pharmecuetical company Merck. It is straight off of their website. Those are for real inserts and you can even email the company if you want. This is not something made up being spread around. Edited by babymakers on Nov. 10, 2006 at 6:03 AM |
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Nov. 11, 2006 - Lots of info!!!!
 Posted by MommaBear9 |
| I think of all the blogs I have read so far in my short time of blogging yours is the most blunt and to the point. We haven't immunized most of our children and the others we started the process when they were older and stopped . My dd's aunt works with children who have had adverse reactions to immunizations. Read your coffee post too, arrgghh!!!! . I know I need to at least slow down to one cup a day. The cold weather came and I so enjoy it more than I need it and yet somewhere I think they become one and the same. I don't believe stating facts is judgemental, but I can see how your site ruffles a few feathers. Thanks for the great info |
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Nov. 14, 2006 - Lots of opinions!
 Posted by helff |
| I actually have an autistic son. I DO believe that it started when he received his two year old shots. I am not going to post my opinion on either side, but I do think it's scary! |
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Nov. 19, 2006 - I'd like to see unbiased sources....
 Posted by CatholicTitus2wife |
| for this quote: "90% of obstetricians and 66% of pediatritions won't get the rubella vaccine. Why? In my personal opinion it is because they know this shot had "fetal tissue" in it. It is kind of hard to inject yourself with what you bring into the world for a living. Yes, fetal tissue means dead baby. Or maybe I should say "aborted fetal tissue". So, if you are "pro life" you should stop giving this shot to your children."
As a Catholic, I am deeply concerned with pro-life issues, including vaccinations made from aborted fetal tissue. We are not "non-vaccinating" parents but we are very much "delayed and selective" vaccinating parents. My younger children have only had what I consider to be very important vaccines; tetnus and HIB. Both are diseases that are around everyday and can be easily contracted. While I agree with some of what you wrote, I do take issue with some things you posted you posted though. First, I doubt those "statistics" you cited, 90% of OB doctors, etc. could be true simply because most doctors were innoculated as children, like other adults. They don't get the vaccine as doctors because they don't need it, would be my guess. Secondly, if you receive a vaccination like the MMR, which was derived using fetal tissue, you are not injecting "dead baby" cells into your body. The vaccine was initially made with them but the original cells are no longer present in the modern vaccines. Not that it makes it right in the first place! I agree that it is morally reprehensible for it to have been done in the first place and we don't give our children that one either, for both health and moral reasons, but to say someone is injecting their child with "dead baby" cells isn't exactly right either. I think parents need to make this decision prayerfully with a trusted Christian, prolife doctor. We were fortunate to have a wonderful doctor who is all of those and he helped guide us in our decisions about this and many other issues. He does not fully vaccinate his children either and we somewhat followed his lead in this area. |
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Nov. 19, 2006 - To the comment above...
| Posted by babymakers |
| If the OB doctors are not getting them because they are already innoculated than why aren't other doctor statistics that high? You are reading into the study a little too much. If you want to check into the statistic you can learn more from the February 1981 Journal of the American Medical Association.
Tetnus is NOT important. The only people that get tetanus are people that live around chickens and horses and those kind of animals. You would have to do something like step on a nail and get the animal fecal matter in the wound. Then most people still don't get it. If they do the symptoms are not distinguishable from a common cold. So few people get a severe case of Tetanus that it is not even funny. This shot is a joke! If you were in circumstances that you had a chance to get it all you would have to do is let the wound bleed, wash it well in soapy water and eat or apply garlic or salt water and you would not get Tetnus. It doesn't matter if the aborted baby cells are in the shot or were used to make it. Either way you are using a MURDERED BABY mixed in mercury to "protect" your child! And you are not even protecting them! You think you are but then the child ends up worse off in the long run! This thinking is twisted!!!!! It is an aborted baby. DO NOT come onto this blog and try to justify it. IT IS SICK and wrong! I hope you don't get offended but I don't take abortion very lightly and neither does God. You need to watch that DVD or read that book that another blogger reccommended. If you do then you will change your mind. |
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Nov. 20, 2006 - Pardon me but....
| Posted by CatholicTitus2wife |
| the VERY FIRST thing I wrote was that I take pro life issues VERY seriously!!! I ALSO wrote that we do not use the MMR and other vaccines that are made with aborted fetal tissue because we believe it to be morally reprehensible. It's too bad you can not have a reasonable discussion about this topic as you obviously DON'T read what was written. Not once did I try to justify abortion and yet you call me "sick and wrong". How Christian of you. I pointed out your error but I guess you don't like being wrong.
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Nov. 20, 2006 - The Above Comment....
| Posted by babymakers |
| You pointed out that dead baby cells are not injected into the body. My point is they are still used to make the shot. It is the same things. The shot is not the shot without aborted fetal tissue. You might not do MMR but what do you think is in the Hib?? Same thing. You must not of done your research. Anyhow, the only thing I appologize for is my wording. I should have worded it like this-
Either way poeple are using a MURDERED BABY mixed in mercury to "protect" their child! And they are not even protecting them! They think you are but then the child ends up worse off in the long run I did not mean a literal "you" I meant a you as in people. Sorry for the wording. That is just how I give examples. |
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Nov. 20, 2006 - I did my research, tyvm!
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| You can go to this link: http://www.wnho.net/vaccine_ingredients.htm and see the ingredients and the medium used to make all the vaccines commonly available. The Hib vaccine was not grown using human cells. Go see for yourself. The site is not biased for vaccines, it is the World Natural Health Organization, and it lists all the ones that DO use human cells. The Hib is made with a chemical and yeast base. I'm not going to debate whether the vaccines are effective or not because "evidence" can be found to support either side.
Edited this comment to add that tetanus lives in the soil, it is a common organism, especially in rural areas but can also be found in domestic animals like cats and dogs. Puncture wounds that do not bleed well are prime breeding ground for tetanus. Edited by CatholicTitus2wife on Nov. 20, 2006 at 7:07 AM |
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Nov. 20, 2006 - Untitled Comment
| Posted by babymakers |
| Yes, it lives in the soil WHERE chicken and other animal poop is. If you live in the city then you should rub your foot in the litter box or step in poop that is not picked up. So, even if you did this simply cleaning out the wound should prevent it. If by some super duper slight chance you did get it it probably would not be bad enough for you to even know you had it. You have a BETTER possibility of getting sick from the shot.
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Nov. 20, 2006 - Either way...
| Posted by CatholicTitus2wife |
| you don't have to "stick your foot in the litter box" to get it. It can live in the GROUND long after the feces has dissolved. Anyone who gardens, even in the city, can be exposed. As far as the vaccine making you sicker, that's not been my experience. Anyway, the tetanus discussion was not my main point. You said I had not done my research but obviously it's the other way around. Hib is not made from human cells. You didn't address that at all. |
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Nov. 20, 2006 - Untitled Comment
| Posted by babymakers |
| I will get to it. I don't have time to research it out right now. I have a family to raise, a baby to nurse and the only reason I am on this computer right now is because I am trying to get some school figured out for my children right now.
No doubt Satan or his angels are using you right now because yesterday morning God and I "had it out" (long story) and he impressed on my to not be on here so much. Then, low and behold, you come along! I am getting quite irritated because you have NOT done your research about the tetanus and now I need to research the link you gave me + some. I am now in a position of choosing between God and this and am trying to figure out how to balance all this. If you want to shoot your children up with mercury and formaldehyde and chemicals GO AHEAD! Feel lucky that you have not injured them (that you know of) yet. So, until I get around to researching (which won't be this week with out of state family coming, house construction and God) how about you leave me alone and go harrass someone else. I will let you know when I find something out. OK? |
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Nov. 20, 2006 - Untitled Comment
| Posted by CatholicTitus2wife |
| If you think I am harrassing you, don't bother. Oh, and Satan is using me. Riiiiiight. Never mind. I will do what I think is right for my family and you do the same for you. May God bless us both in that endeavor. You might want to take some time to pray for generosity and good will toward others instead of "researching". You attitude very hostile. I thought I was having an intelligent conversation with a fellow homeschooling mother and Christian. Apparently that was not what you want, but that's ok! :-) Fortunately, I'm not terribly busy this week as my children have a well earned break from school and are nicely playing and my housework and cooking are all caught up. Yay! |
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Nov. 20, 2006 - To the Catholic Lady....
| Posted by babymakers |
| OK, I will tell you what,
I am not going to do the research. If it is that shot or not that has the fetal tissue doesn't matter to me anyhow. Either way some of them have it. Either way they are all bad for you. It is just that those ones are extra bad because of the way they are made. There is no point in me searching it out because I know where I stand. Thanks for the links. If by chance I am wrong (maybe I am!) than I am sorry and if I am right than I am not. OK? I have allowed myself to run down a rabbit trail here. I am sorry for my bad attitude also. I do have one. You just don't understand that I just know what God wants me to do and then this comes up. It is not just you either. There are a million things right now making this hard all the way around. I am in a spiritual battle right now. It is frustrating. I am glad your house is in order. My house is too but we are replacing a floor in the hallway. The stairs and railing are half painted. I live in a huge victorian house and there is a LOT of painting and work to do before the holiday this week. My children unschool so we don't do sit down paperwork. They are not doing school like what most people imagine. I just try to find ways to put things in their path that they will learn from and absorb in a way that is enjoyable and part of everyday life. That is what I was doing on here. My list goes on and on....I am just blah blahing here and am going to stop. So, there you go. An apology of sorts. I do wish that you would search out the shots a bit more. You are lucky to have a doctor that doesn't want you to give your children all of them; but, you should not get any. That video I recommend is really informative. If you have a chance check it out and then loan it to your doctor. |
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Nov. 20, 2006 - Thank you
| Posted by CatholicTitus2wife |
| I appreciate your response and will seriously consider looking further into the vaccines that we choose to do. When I say that, I am really talking about the 2 actual shots the younger ones have had, we've somehow just not done more even though we were ok with doing the series of HIB and tetanus. We never followed through though and now they are really too old for the HIB so we won't be giving it again. We'll see about the tetanus.
Enjoy your week! We too are not traditional home schoolers, no worksheets here either. We use Ambleside Online and use Charlotte Mason based tools but are not slaves to the curriculum. We do read a lot! We also have a big Victorian house, I love it but there is always something needing to be done, isn't there? Take care and Happy Thanksgiving! |
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Jan. 23, 2007 - A day late, maybe...
 Posted by MommylovesRJ |
| But I just have to applause your passion and persistence in getting this issue out. Vaccines, simply, are NOT safe!! And, as a parent of one of the supposed 'few children who have reactions to vaccines"...let me say to anyone questioning...it is NOT as rare as you think...and it is horrific to watch your child suffer through a vaccine reaction.
There is a site entitled VAERS...Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System...the info there is much less available now, compared to how it used to be; it has not been around long...reporting estimates of vaccine reactions have been estimated to be 10% of actual reactions...but believed to actually only be 1%...there are hundreds of thousands of reports in that database. Additionally, in the 80's a fund was set up for vaccine victims...over a billion dollars in damages has been paid out. There are a couple books I'll have to get back on, to recommend. Their titles are escaping me, currently. The information entailed is from the VSD...a government agency...prehaps THAT will be more convincing to those who doubt. |
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Could you direct me to some RELIABLE web sources for some anti-vaccine info?? Whenever I bring up something I have heard on-line about health - I am always told by a doctor (who I *should* be able to trust on medical facts/knowledge) that my information is just a myth - like the whole antipersperant/deodorant thing? The doc said it was a myth that the aluminum (or something) could harm our lymph system. She said there was nothing risky about using antipersperant - yet I've met many women who claim just the opposite and would NEVER use it.
And that's such a small example - what I'm concerned about is when it affects my children. life and death stuff here. My dh is willing to go with whatever I learn on this subject - he just told me that a few weeks ago - now I really need to find out THE TRUTH. Can you help???? I feel like the TRUTH is out there, but I'm having a hard time wading through the.....junk (to put it nicely).
Thanks
~MommaJoy~