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May. 1, 2008

marriage part 3 family part 1

   Now after your married you have to live; so this is part 3 of marriage and part 1 of family. I'm going to talk about the things the husband and wife should do (again this is how I want mine to be), and things to avoid. I'm going to take some of what I've seen in the marriages of my parents the things that have not worked the things that have worked and the things that broke the up.

                Ok we are going to assume this is my marriage. It is after college, and we have had three kids by this point. They are 6, 5 and 3 years old, and that my business I've started has and is going well.
 One is Clothed in Christ (my screen printing business) and the other is Treasures in Heaven (my storage sheds), and we will also keep in mind I won't be a minister at a church yet (most churches don't want a right out of college minister), but we'll say I'm a paramedic at this point. And as for my wife we'll say she stays at home with the kids, the kids will be old enough to start school, so my wife will be doing that while I'm at work.

                Ok so let's get started. Now marriage is a two way thing and then adding kids means both my wife and I will need to be raising the kids together. When the wife is the only one tending to the children they tend to be very mellow, non-adventurous, and softish (now that's not all the time). The other thing is if it a boy, they tend to be "girly" which leads to being made fun of and called gay (I mean called gay not made gay). Also when its mom raising a boy, the boy doesn't learn his place as leader for when he gets married and has his own family (again this is not all the time but more often than not).

                Let me tell you why I think this. Ok now my dad is in the army and 4 years ago his troop got activated and he when to Iraq. At this point he was with his 2nd wife, and had two sons with her. My dad is one of those dads who plays rough with the kids, wrestles, and throws them in the air and that kind of stuff. He had been doing this with both of them their entire lives, (at this point they were 6 and 3). After he left, their mom babied them and they never saw any male influence in there upbringing for 15 months. When dad got back, he came back to two girls not two boys (you may think I'm exaggerating but they changed big time) they would cry if any dirt got on them (these are 7 and 4 year old boys they are the messiest things in the world) but not them. Dad would try to hold them up in the air above his head or put them on his shoulders (like he always use to do) and they would freak out and screamed and cry like someone was going to really hurt them. Before he left they were used to sleeping in their own room (well there shared a room) and when he left they slept with their mom every night, as in they would sneak into her room at night cuz she couldn't say no. By the time he got back they were scared of heights, bugs, dirt, sleeping in their own rooms, dogs, and they whined and cried more than anyone I know.

It's really funny because I have a younger sister too (at my mom's) she is now almost 8, and she goes out digs through the dirt with her hands trying to find worms and bugs to play with. She did this in front of my little brothers (the same one's I've been talking about) and they were freaking out just watching her.

I know that this does not always happen, take me for example. I was mainly raised by my mom, but you may not have ever noticed if I didn't tell you (even if you knew me on a personal leave). It has turned out that I am the exception for most the things I'll be talking about.  The only thing that has happened to me from being raised by mom more than dad (step dad is include in as dad), is that I get along much better with girls than guys, and I don't get into "guy" things like any sports, cars (I like looking at them like old hotrods but that's it), being tough and unemotional. But those are things that our culture has put onto males, now some of those things are important, and sometimes they are bad.

Now on the flip side, if the kids are raised mainly by dad there are also problems. We'll start with a boy being mainly raised by dad. They are more likely to really get into cars, sports, being a tough guy, not showing a soft side at all, often it can lead to not knowing how to treat a girl properly, they are more likely to be rude (I'm not saying that girls aren't rude cuz you can be), the combination of the last two I said can lead to and often does lead to hurting girls. They may not mean to but it does happen.

Now it's time for dads raising girls. Let's just face it; there are things with girls that dads don't know how to deal with.  Most of the time the girl will act more like a guy and really get into cars, sports and other "guy" things (I'm not saying girls don't or wouldn't do that anyway). The problem is it will make it harder for them to become a submissive wife like the Bible talks about. Many times the girl will be more of a leader when raised mainly by dad (which can be good), but not in a biblical marriage, they tend to be more "guyish", and when they have kids and one turns out to be a girl it can be harder for them to raise a girl to be more like a girl.

  Now I want you to know I know there are times when there is no choice the mom or dad have to do all the work, like if a parent dies or just leaves. I know that happens and they do their best and often they do a good job, but what I'm talking about is when mom and dad are both still there and can help the other. I also know that the things I've talked about don't always happen and can also happen when both parents raise them together, but it is more likely for these things to happen when only one parent is doing the bulk of the upbringing.
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May. 1, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Alex Paul
Interesting argument. But it's too generalized in my opinion. I think personality plays a large part in the raising of a family and I think you're making the personalities of a father or a mother seem to generalized, too stereotypical.

Women rarely submit these days (at least those raised to be independant, like most are in our culture). I see marriage as an equal partnership, not as the man being the leader and the woman being submissive. Don't get me wrong, I'm quite aware of what the Bible says. But I'm also aware of what reality has shown to me.

Marriage is also about sacrifice on both sides of it. Both the man and the woman must be willing to lose a little bit of what they had before in order to make room for the other.

Times have changed, my friend. Pretty much all women these days think independantly and ARE NOT going to simply submit when their husband is "putting their foot down". I know what the Bible says a marriage is. BUT things and rules change. Jesus made that quite clear. 2,000 years later he has a religion that departed from Judaism and is VERY well known worldwide.

But that's just what I've gained from my experiences.
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May. 1, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Allysa
Brett this post was funny, you are quite a daydreamer aren't you...
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May. 1, 2008 - responsible

Posted by Allysa
It is very responsible of you to have another job to provide for your family while waiting to become a minister. What will you do if your wife is unable to have children and you don't find this out until after you are married? I know you like to plan but life can often surprise you. I also know that children are very different and despite how they are raised they can all turn out very differently. A godly example is the best thing a parent can give, on that we do agree! This isn't Allysa, this is her mother, sorry I get confused with all our different blogs.

Edited by Allysa on May. 1, 2008 at 4:19 PM
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May. 1, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by kerianna
this is pretty interesting brett.
my parents are seperated and remarried. and so i have been raised by both,(encluding step parents) differently.with mom,ive been taught to do the more "girlish" things at home. cooking,cleaning,and taking care of kids,sewing,and other girly stuff.
with my dad,i have been brought up with many of the "boyish" things. camping,fishing,cars,quads,bikes and hunting,bugs and fish guts,lol.alot!
but i think im balanced out with all that just right.
this probably doesnt make much sense...lol
its hard for me to write out my thoughts so they're understood.
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May. 1, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by megjo
Wow, I hope u don't want to sleep. Because having 3 kids raising them. Going to school to be a paramedic, starting 2 busniess will be very hard(imo). I want to go to school to be a paramedic and I think I will focous on it when i get there I don't want to much going on when I am in school.I think personality plays a role .I think that you're parents can teach u thing like being andventrous either way or u they can both be adventrous I Do think that Dads should teach certian things and moms teachs certian things. How do plan on balancing all that work and having a big fam?
ttyl
reby
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May. 2, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by brettmitchell
WOW..i have alot to tell after all those coments, lol.. but thats what i wanted.

first of all, Alex i think your thinking of the worldly deffanition of subisev not the Biblical one. the worldly one is to do what the husbend says without quesan or complant. where the Biblical one is, to be suportive and loveing, untersanding that God has made the Man to be the head of the household. its not meaning do whatever whenever the husbend says, its a suportiv adutued there are time when the husbend is wrong and a submisiv wife will lovingly show him how he is wrong but will still follow him and help him get to where he's right.

at the same time, the Bible also say's we as men must love and take care of our wife. we are to do whatever nesusary to keep our family in line with God ang together.

i also know that persnality has a BIG part in the wawy a child turns out. and i do know that kids can turn out one way nomatter what the parent does but that was not what i was talking about....i was talking about how mom and dad must work together to rais there kids, some thing are best taught by dad and some are best taught by mom. that is what i was talking about. my point was the parenst responibility's as a parent not the out come, i just gave eggsampals.

i am not daydreaming. what part do you think im daycreaming about, i need you to be more spisifec.

i think you may have missunderstud me, i hvae already started Clothed in Chrust, and have already stared the planes for the Storage sheds. i have already started some EMT traning you need that befor Parimedic traning. and that is some i can do on the side.

as for the posibilty of my wife not being able to have kids, if its a doctor saying she cant i dont care and will ****enu to try. but if you mean we're been trying for many many years and we just never had any kids that mean God doesnt want me to. a doctor can NOT say you cant have children all they can say is they dont think you have a good chance of haveing kids. we will still try and we will keep trying untill we cant try anymore.
but i do plane on adopting as well (like have 10ish kids+the ones i adoped.

anything eles

Stay Strong In Our Faith
Brett
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May. 2, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Reby
That's great! I thought u where going start all of this when u got married.So I misunderstood u
ttyl
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May. 6, 2008 - Hey Brett

Posted by SuperAngel
Sorry I haven't been able to stop by! I was sick on Saturday which is the day I blog on and I just have been really busy! :D
While I completely and totally agree that the Mama should not be the one raising the children by herself, I don't think that the boys will end up being sissies because of it. Now it probably will depend on the mother, but my mama does most of our raising and I have 3 brothers who are all boy! I mean, getting hurt all the time because of rough play, playing in the dirt and so on. I totally think that it depends on the mama and how she is as to whether the boys will end up being sissies.
I am sorry to hear about your brothers. That is just not right. I mean... man. That would be a situation where I agree with them needing their dad.
While there are some things that girls can't get from their dads, I believe that girls NEED their dads! I mean really need them. My dad and I aren't close and I wish we were, and I really do need to be close to him, but it just doesn't and isn't going to happen.
And I have to agree with you... I think you are talking about a Biblical marriage and everything you have said is pretty much right on Biblically. Alex, if we are talking about worldy marriages, then you are right. Hardly any women are submissive to anyone, let alone their husbands. But if we are talking about the Biblical way, then I do believe that his wife would be submissive. I am going to be submissive to the best of my ability and with help from God, so I do think it is possible!

I think this is a pretty right on and great article, Brett! :)
and you are welcome! ;)
Prayers and Blessings,
Miss Amanda
http://superangelsblog.com
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May. 7, 2008 - hello

Posted by jesusfreakteens
Hi Brett, thank you for dropping by the JFT site and leaving a comment. My goal is to get a lot of Christian teens on there discussing things and encouraging each other, etc. We would love to have you join us.
Anyhow, to answer your question, I do believe that America is favored by God. Our founding fathers dedicated the country to God, and I believe that America is God's country even though we have gotten so far from God. I would like to hear your opinion, though, and I wonder why you asked.
In Christ,
Emy
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May. 9, 2008 - thanks

Posted by jesusfreakteens
Thank you for your feedback, I appreciate it. Would you like for me to add you to our friends list and mailing list? I see you have already added me, thank you! Please message me if you would like the code for our link graphic, I would love for you to add it to your sidebar as I am trying to attract more readers.

Oh, and don't worry about the spelling, it's fine.

In Christ,
Emy
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May. 9, 2008 - forgot

Posted by jesusfreakteens
Oh, and I'm so sorry I never replied to the other comment. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and opinions, I found them interesting. I wish I was studied enough in this area to provide a knowledgable discussion but unfortunately I am not.
In Christ,
Emy
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