Aug. 13, 2007
The myth of Socialization
Since I did not Homeschool my children from the very beginning, I know a little bit about socialization in school. You maybe surprised to learn, there isn't any!
Really! People keep telling you they need to go to school for Socialization, but at school you cannot socialize! As my children would get on the school bus, they were told 'No talking" There is traffic and the bus driver needs to concentrate. I know you know this is true because you tell your children to be quite while you are driving too.
Once they get to school the bus kids arrive just in time to stand in line and go in the classroom. There is no talking in line. There is however pushing and shoving, taking cuts and as in the case of my son a broken nose because he fell over a bookbag.
In class my very social son was ready to socialize. he was sent to the office all the time for talking in class. You cannot talk in class. You cannot ask too many questions and you cannot go to the bathroom. That is what recess is for doing ! Did you know that is what recess is for doing? And since everyone is in line to go potty at recess o one is playing and heaven help you if the bell rings and you haven't pee'd yet! Once Matthew came home to school I discovered he hadn't had recess all year long. Why isn't he outside playing with his friends? Because he had not completed he assignment in the allotted time period, he did not have recess. How many times does your six year old stare at a math page?
Now it is lunchtime hooray for the cafeteria! All the kids together eating lunch, talking , laughing. What ?they aren't? Of course they aren't! If they are talking they aren't eating. If they aren't eating the lunch PATROLS have to stay longer. So no talking! EAT! If they eat fast enough (which means throwing out half eaten food) they get to go stand in line to play a game.
The bus ride home is the same as the bus ride there. It is 4:00 when they get off the bus. Time to play!!!
Nope they can't play yet, they have homework. Then they have supper and their baths! Now they can play or watch TV for about an hour. Good night kids, tomorrow is Saturday, maybe you can socialize then.
What you can't even on Saturday? Why Not? Chores? Oh ya I forgot, you haven't been home all week; you have chores to do, then you can go out and play.
If someone is hassling you about socialization, have them read this and then TELL them what you did this week and tell them all the conversations you had with your children. Socialization is a myth. The schools already know that Homeschoolers are raising the bar on education, so this is all they have in their bag of tricks to make you feel like you are failing your children. Don't buy into their lies for a minute.
3John I:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children are walking in the truth!
Comments
Aug. 13, 2007 - Untitled Comment
Posted by AcceptanceWithJoy
The socialization argument is my pet peeve... because I don't think the educrats have in mind spending time in your peer group. I think that the main thrust of socialization is to create a society that thinks alike and behaves the same.
Besides, no one has ever asked if spending all the time with their peers is good for kids. When I was teaching adults... I found the young adults (18-25-ish) extremely peer dependent. They would gather in a class, study with their peer group, ignore the wisdom of the older women (taught nursing so I rarely had male students)... and, when one of the older women had her house burn over Christmas break the older women had a fund raising drive to help her replace her books. The younger students not only didn't participate, but some didn't even know that this lady had lost EVERYTHING in a fire. These are people that spend 4 days a week together.
Besides, except when I was a student, I have always had to work, interact and socialize across the age span. And my younger students didn't even know how to do it. I had them do a reminiscence paper with an elderly person just so that they could practice the skill. You wouldn't believe how many students asked if they could do this activity with a grandparent because they had never spent the time getting to know them... so very sad!!!
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Aug. 13, 2007 - Amen, Sister!
Posted by ReviewsbyHeidi
You preach it!
I totally agree with everything you said in this post~ so true~ so sad, but true.
Heidi
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Aug. 13, 2007 - Untitled Comment
Posted by jenn4him
I can vouch for what Bobbie has written with Grace being in public schools last year for 150 days. She did not make one friend all year. If you are a bit different than the group, you are left out to be picked on. Imagine my sweet Grace being picked on. She's home where she belongs this year.
Jenn
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Aug. 13, 2007 - Untitled Comment
Posted by Anonymous
i think my favourite part of school was the scary libray lady who patroled the lunch room with her yard stick. any talking at lunch and THWACK!
and recess was 15 min and 30 min. boy that was a great time to interact :-)
haha
heatherly
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Aug. 13, 2007 - Untitled Comment
Posted by socalval
Weel said! Thank you for this... socialization is something - just the topic! Whenever people ask if I'm afraid of my children not being socialized, I just ask my son to raise his hand right there in front of the person - and then I tell them "See, my son does know how to raise his hand and take turns. He even knows how to listen and interact". That usually keeps the person quiet. The boldness of people. Praise God for the calling to homeschool.
Valerie
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Aug. 13, 2007 - <i>Untitled Comment</i>
Posted by diamondsintherough
Bobbie, thanks for the site. I was going to PM you but didn't see a way to do that. Maybe I am just unobservant? I want to tell you, though, that I have deleted your comment until I have a chance to give that site a good look-over. If I can endorse it I will post the site again.
Maybe instead of getting into a debate with me over this issue, you should post your own defense of the other English versions on your blog :o) I think you have misunderstood my intent in defending the KJV. I will look at the site and get back to you. But not tonight, sorry, no time!
Sally
Sorry you mistook my response as a debate. It was just an alternative opinion. It is your blog and your opinion as well. Just dialoging on my end.
Because of Jesus, Bobbie
Edited by bubbebobbie on Aug. 13, 2007 at 9:22 PM
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Aug. 13, 2007 - Untitled Comment
Posted by 2peter318
What a very good post. Thank you so much for writing it. :)
JoAnn
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Aug. 13, 2007 - Untitled Comment
Posted by eclecticeducation
Thank you for the encouragement! :)
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Aug. 14, 2007 - <i>Untitled Comment</i>
Posted by sahmto4orMore
My iimpression has been that socialization means learning your place in the "pecking order" and how to not cry when you are being bullied.
Per your question, yes, he is helping out some. He's doing the normal guy stuff around the house and has gotten groceries a couple of times. I'm still quite functional. I'll have to pretty much do it all even when baby arrives. He is good to get the groceries, though, if i make a list!
Edited by sahmto4orMore on Aug. 14, 2007 at 8:11 AM
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Aug. 14, 2007 - Untitled Comment
Posted by MiryClay
I've read all of your recent posts and I just wanted to let you know that you couldn't have picked a better blog title for yourself. I receive so much encouragement and blessing each time I visit here. Thank you for that! As far as the socialization thing goes......"WOULD SOMEBODY COME AND REMOVE ALL OF THESE TEENS FROM MY HOUSE. MY KIDS ARE GETTING TOO MUCH SOCIALIZATION." Okay, I'm done screaming now. LOL.
Love ya,
Lori
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Aug. 14, 2007 - Untitled Comment
Posted by TS92901
I appreciate your comment to me over at It's a Wonderful Life, but I'm not a women in Cassandra's church I'm her best friend (outside from her hubby) and sister. I've known her my whole life-literally.:) I wish i could help her, and I do as much as I can, but unfortunately I live a couple hours away from her and usually do not have access to a vehicle since we are a one vehicle family. I am not in the ministry myself so I cannot speak for those who are, but I have my own 'stress'. My husband has his own business and is gone 6 out of seven days of the week. He leaves at 6:00 a.m. and doesn't get back until 9:00 p.m. most nights. I have three boys under the age of five and my youngest has health problems. He had failure to thrive and was hospitalized for about a month trying to figure out what was his problem. This happened soon after we moved our family two times in a month and also moved my husband's woodworking business 100 miles away. We had our house taken away from us (long story...). Luckily my husband didn't lose his business. My husband's family blamed me for my son's failure to thrive (never visited him in the hospital until he was getting better- three weeks later) and the hospital called DCFS on us. After a week of that particular hospital not figuring out what his problem was they transfered us to a hospital closer to home. Two and a half weeks later after many tests and definitely confirming the fact that I 'had' been feeding him they figured out his problem- severe food protein allergies and an adrenal problem (he's on steriods now and a very expensive 'special' formula). Anyway, i don't know why i felt led to tell you all this- I guess just to let you know that even though my husband is not in the ministry my life isn't always a bed of roses either. I was only telling Cassandra that because I know and love her and know just what she needs. The woman never stops! I have learned that when my life is the busiest I suffer physically. So I have learned to take it easy and just to stay home and RELAX. She knows what I'm getting at -I just talked to her (on the phone) today before she ran off to VBS. She knows I support her and I only said what I said because I care for and love her. I'm sorry if my comment offended you. Maybe if you knew I was her sister and not just some lady in her church you'd understand more. I'm sorry if I shared too much and I really hope it doesn't seem as if I'm having a pity party. I just wanted to let you know where I was coming from. I'm sorry...I'm really not one of those opinionated self-righteous people-really... :) Have a great day- stop by my blog sometime!
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Aug. 14, 2007 - Oops!!!
Posted by TS92901
Okay now I just feel plain STUPID! I'm so, so, so sorry! It's just of you read the two that's what it seems like- doesn't it? Anyway, I feel really, really dumb now. Please accept my apologies. :) Thanks for your prayers- I need them!
~Sarah~
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Aug. 15, 2007 - Untitled Comment
Posted by Anonymous
Amen to that!
And thank you for the NH info. I have never heard of Strawberry Banke. I will make sure we go check it out next time we are in the area.
Blessings,
Hallie
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Aug. 15, 2007 - We Homeschoolers Have It Good
Posted by timbuck2mom
I like this post, Bobbie. Good job.
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Aug. 16, 2007 - Untitled Comment
Posted by Keri
So very true!
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Aug. 18, 2007 - Untitled Comment
Posted by sharity
That is awesome! Do you have this in a printable format?! lol
Blessings!
Sharity
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