Jun. 15, 2009

Taking Fertility Medicine/Treatments to Expand Your Quiver...is this okay?

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Q. What are your thoughts on taking fertility medicine to help a woman actually conceive? Is it Biblical to use medications or procedures to aid (or force) conception? Is IVF a sin?
 
A. Contrary to popular belief, a Biblical "quiverfull" person does not seek to have as many children as they can have. They have simply handed their wombs to God for His use. They are choosing to let God "build their house" and create as many souls as He pleases, when He pleases, without using human intervention one way or the other. Only God knows how many arrows He wants in our quiver, and only He should be allowed to decide when and if He creates life.
 
I believe that a couple is to leave ALL family planning to God. If He chooses to give you none by birth, then fine, but if He chooses to give you 22, that's fine, as well.


****One of the best verses in the Bible to point out that only GOD knows when our quiver is full is this: "Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build it. Unless the Lord keeps the city, the watchman stays awake in vain." Psalm 127:1


* The word “builds” in Hebrew is “Banah,” which actually means “to obtain children.”
* A form of "banah" is also used for the word "house," which is translated as "especially family."
* Then, the word "keep" is shamar" which is translated, "hedge about/protect/preserve."
* "In Vain" is "shav" = "or shav {shav}; in the sense of desolating; evil (as destructive), literally (ruin) or morally (especially guile); figuratively idolatry (as false, subjective), uselessness (as deceptive, objective; also adverbially, in vain)"
*Remember, This is also the same Psalm that talks of how happy a man is who has a quiver full of children! 


The issue of IVF is a difficult issue. Again, we are dealing with taking measures into our own hands when God has proved time and again in the Bible to be the “creator and taker of life.” There have been many precious children created through IVF. Some have even been adopted by other infertile couples through embryo adoption, instead of being discarded or donated for scientific experiments. This is a wonderful outcome, but is it Biblical to "assist God" in creating a life in that way; to create it and freeze it for “later use”; to create it and donate it to someone else to parent; to donate for scientific experimentation? Some of those answers are obvious in Scripture and some are not.
 
I believe that IVF is ethically and morally wrong, without a doubt, if the embryos are frozen. NOT because I am against the "creation" of a new child, but because there are children who are frozen right now – their lives put on hold - in the name of scientific advancements. Another factor to consider is the death of the embryos during the thawing process. The chance of death for the thawing embryos is quite high. So the primary issues I have with IVF is the freezing and thawing of the embryos (and therefore, sometimes killing) human life. That is the area that really bothers me.
 
As for me, if I had birthed no children of my own, had experienced long-term secondary infertility or experienced an indefinite number of miscarriages, I would never turn to IVF or any other fertility treatments, simply because I believe the above verse Psalm 127:1, to be true….the LORD builds the house and we labor in vain when we try to take over His job. Might something wonderful come of it? Yes! But I don’t feel that it’s my domain to take control over. So, I do not condone IVF or any other fertility medicine due to these beliefs. If someone were to initially use every embryo created through their IVF procedure and never freeze them, I can't point to any Scripture that blatantly says that there's anything inherently wrong with that. BUT that is rarely done.


I do believe that adoption is a wonderful option for couples dealing with any or all of the above conditions! I am an adoptive mom who went through a small time of infertility and then repeated (5) miscarriages. Our family was led to a specific ministry of adoption even after I had my progesterone levels stabilized (more here) and was able to conceive as God saw fit. I also know of many "quiverfull" parents who chose to be used of the Lord through adoption! We all feel much blessed through our adoptions, but the couples that were unable to conceive on their own and pursued adoption see now that God chose them to be infertile so that they could have the ministry they have. There are SO MANY children out there who need good, godly, Christian parents, and there are not enough people are willing to make those sacrifices. Remember that Pure Religion is defined in James 1:27 as taking care of widows and orphans. The original text actually points to providing them a home! If you are dealing with infertility for any reason, please pray and look into adopting a child that God may have chosen for you from the foundations of the earth!
 
I hope this answered the question sufficiently, as to why I believe we should give total control of our wombs to God, as Christian women. If I missed addressing something, please comment and I’ll attempt to address any further questions!
 

Lisa Metzger

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Jun. 15, 2009 - question for you

Posted by Anonymous
I was wondering if I might e-mail you a question and get your thoughts. My e-mail address is jtmabpark@msn.com if you would be open to this! Thank you!
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Jun. 15, 2009 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous
Lisa, thank you for sharing biblical wisdom and the insight the Lord has blessed you with, for it has truly blessed me in this area of curiosity.

Perhaps because of the consuming pain that I have just come out of (all praise to our Heavenly Father!), I haven't been able to clearly point out why I have never felt comfortable to pursue fertility medicine. I knew my heart could not settle nor feel comfortable in pursing fertility meds, and especially IVF, everytime I would think about it.

For me, I believe, there was just something about it that I knew as a believer in Christ who seeks to follow and 'know' Him that has not allowed me to take fertility meds.

I love Psalm 127:1 and I have certainly faced the consequences when I attempt to build my house in vain.... but, I have never thought about the building of my family size to be considered within the context of this this scripture. How true it is! Why wouldn't it, it only makes sense. I will trust the Lord and what He has in store for my womb :O) I am so thankful that the Holy Spirit resides in me, directing me especially when my finite mind lacks reasoning. The Lord is good to his children.

Blessings to you and yours,
Deanna @
www.mrsmarcum.blogspot.com
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Jun. 15, 2009 - Deanna

Posted by carolinametzgers
I'm so happy to hear how the Lord has ministered to your heart during your personal trials in this area! It is difficult for us humans to see past the trials that are sent to us by God. If we can work past those sprit-dampening times with God's help, we usually find that we are better off because of them! What a sweet time that is!

~ Lisa
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Jun. 16, 2009 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous
Hello!

I appreciate your post on this topic. Through our own journey of infertility and adoption I can say the Lord has led us to the same destination. I am especially encouraged by the verses you have shared!

I was wondering if I could clarify on one little thing. Reading this sentence in your amazing post concerned me:
"This is a wonderful outcome, but is it Biblical to create a life; to create it and freeze it for “later use”; to create it and donate it to someone else to parent; to donate for scientific experimentation?"

The part that stuck is the "is it Biblical to create a life". I am worried that someone might feel the implication is that we can create a life. Or that a doctor can create a life. We must tread with caution here. Only God can hand out a soul. We have no power here. In the infertility treatment ICSI the man's seed it injected, by needle, into the egg. One would assume instant fertilization... but no! Percentages quoted to us by our Reproductive Endocrinologist were that this only succeeds about 30% of the time. It is the Lord who is in control.

That said... I do believe that when we venture to such lengths, our responsibility increases as well. We chose not to pursue IVF. We believe life begins at conception. An eight day old embryo has the same human rights that a 2 year old has. If parents were given an option to put their toddler into a deep freeze, to put a living soul "on hold" with the intention of thawing them out later at a more convenient time, but this process also came with the risk of the child not surviving the process.... Who would take that risk? I never could. In fact, I'm pretty sure it would be considered child abuse.

As far as creating only the number of embryos that would be implanted, that practice is growing. However, it is very expensive, and your chance of actually carrying the pregnancy full term - and giving birth to a child to parent in the end, is very small.

We experienced primary infertility for 6 years, were given a child through adoption and later were given a child through birth, and now have experienced secondary infertility for the another 6 years. We are arranging our finances and life to pursue another adoption, but we are trusting the Lord to increase our family.

Thank you again for your well grounded post on this issue, it is so seldom to see someone approach it scripturally and Biblically, as you have done. Had I read this post 14 years ago, when we started our journey, I know I would have been saved so much heartache from learning this lesson on my own.

By His Grace,

Amy Lu
http://somecallthemsticks.typepad.com
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Jun. 16, 2009 - Amy Lu...

Posted by carolinametzgers
Yes, I see what you're saying about that quote. As you would discover from previous posts of mine, I do NOT believe that we are the creators of life. This was simply poor wording on my part. What I meant was that some seek to "create" life outside of God's usual "life-creating-laboratory" - our wombs. It's as if some feel that God might need our help or assistance in creating a new life; a new soul. Of course, He needs no help. :)

Hope that clears that up. I will go back and add to the post to clarify my meaning. Thank you for sharing!

~ Lisa

Edited by carolinametzgers on Jun. 16, 2009 at 10:28 AM
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Jun. 20, 2009 - IVF

Posted by Anonymous
I want to thank you for your very frank comments on this subject. It has really made me think about my infertility journey. My husband and I were married late in life. My husband was 40 and I was 34. My urgency to get pregnant was very much like a ticking time bomb. We tried for about 3 years. In this time I came to know Christ, but was a very new believer. My husband said that as we signed up to go to the fertility clinic, he debated with me about these same issues you wrote about. I really do not remember this. Probably because I truly believed this was what God wanted us to do. We had looked into adoption, but the doctors really felt we would be successful with infertility "treatments". To give ourselves the best shot for the least amount of time and money we decided to do IVF. I really do not think I realized the consequences of our actions. First they take numerous eggs from me (I think it was 12) and then the embryos that do not look viable, they destroyed. I have always tried to put this in the back of my head and not think about it. Any way, to make a long story not so long. We had 2 beautiful babies and froze the rest of the viable embryos. I truly believe that despite the way we went about the pregnancy, God still gave us 2 wonderful children. About 18 months later we did IVF again with one of our frozen embryos. We had another beautiful baby boy. Again, a gift from God. Now 3 years later and ALOT of arguing with God and myself, we are trying to proceed with the last 2 frozen embryos. I am now 42 years old and not sure if this will work.

I thank you for your comments because they really challenged me. I do not want Satan to use your words and my thoughts to bring me down, but I do hope that these words will bless someone else. This has been a really hard journey, especially the last couple of years when we were deciding what to do about the last 2 embryos (like we really have a choice). I has been an extremely hard journey. A day does not go by when I don't think about the embryos and the consequences of my not taking time to listen, really listen to God. I don't know if I would do the same again if I went back in time and was closer to God and I do not regret for one minute having my precious children, but now I need to continue to grow in my relationship with God. I also need to trust him in this last process.
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Jul. 6, 2009 - Great post

Posted by Kristen
Lisa,
Thank you for sharing your heart on this topic. I am an adoptive Moma to my precious 5 (so far). My husband and I are quiverfull through adoption. When I joined the quiverfull blogroll I addressed my infertility and use of IVF. Just wanted to let you readers know in case they wanted to read it. http://preciousinhissite.blogspot.com
Would love to meet you in person one day! :)
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Jul. 8, 2009 - wow!

Posted by Anonymous
what an awesome, special family. i envy those who can homeschool. it just wasnt for me. your newest daughter looks like SO MUCH FUN!!!! what a blessing. as far as your beliefs on IVF and fertility treatments, i must admit that my reaction was "thats SO easy to say when you have given bith to 5 children!" you may SAY youd never turn to treatments, but you have no way of seeing the subject from anyone elses perspective. infertility is so deeply painful.... OUCH. i doubt that GOD would tell us not to try all we could to have kids, the technology is there, by his allowance, afterall.
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Jul. 8, 2009 - That's SO easy to say when you have given bith to 5 children

Posted by carolinametzgers
Yes, I understand what you're saying. I knew that would probably be the reaction of most who were pro-IVF. I can't pretend to put myself in someone's shoes who has not been able to conceive, but I have lost 5 precious and much-desired babies and that is truly painful. However, even if I had never given birth to 5 children, Biblically-speaking (which is what I try my best to base ALL my decisions on), I do not see how freezing the embryos is "fair" to those lives that are/were put on hold. To use them immediately is one thing, but to freeze them for later use seems very unethical to me. Like another commenter said, it would be child abuse if we did that with one who was considered to be a child (say, a 2 or 3 year old). The only reason it's considered acceptable now is because most in the medical community do not consider that little embryo to be a life.

If I had faced indefinite infertility, I honestly believe that Mark and I would have been "quiverfull through adoption", feeling that the apparent "thorn in our flesh" had been a calling to adoption from God. As seen in other comments on this post, others have found adoption as their calling after dealing with their own infertility struggles. I commend and admire those who have accepted God's decision in the matter of infertility and chosen to grown their family through adoption!

Blessings to you,
Lisa Metzger
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