"a lot of people don't like that there is evil in the world because then it would seem that God created it, since he created Lucifer and Lucifer turned out evil
I think it was Augustine though that thought of it as, God didn't create sin, rather he created everything good
then because he gave us freewill we are able to take part in that goodness he created, or leave it alone, making sin the lack of good
rather than being an actual thing that was created
So that's how I like to think of it"

"Hmmm...
But that explains sins of just ignoring God
Not sins of purposely doing bad"

"What do you mean?"

"It's more apathy"

"Purposely doing bad is purposely not doing good"

"But then how did the devil decide to do evil? Make the choice?"

"I believe the Angels probably have freewill themselves"

"Yes, but what gave him the idea in the first place?"

"jealousy, pride he wanted to be like God"

"But where did that come from? Did he make them? the feelings I mean"

"huh... I at first wanted to say probably not, but now I'm rethinking it...
I think he probably created jealousy and pride, that would make sense, since he himself is jealous and has pride"

"But then that would still mean that God created them OH"

"Jealousy and Pride aren't necessarily bad :P"

"Yes! I see now So the good versions of jealousy and pride were corrupted by a lack of God in his heart"

"yes"

"I'd never thought about this before..."

"so sin is the absence of good, like darkness is the absence of light
So God created goodness, and called it good, and freewill is a goodthing, but with it we can choose to ignore goodness leaving us to only evil
So that's how I like to explain sin
I should probably figure out who actually came up with that theory, I think it was Augustine"

"So would you say chaos was absence of God or absence of order?"

"I would say the absence of order and I know that it says somewhere that God orders all things to his will so, everything is ordered :P so does chaos really exist? hehe"

"I think chaos is brought about the same as sin via the absence of God I think of Hell as chaos"

"hmm... I can honestly say I'm not entirely sure :P "

"hehe :P "

"It is interesting though, I'm inclined to think that God is ordering everything, so chaos only seems to exist because we don't understand everything"

"What about witches and demon possessed people?"

"Hell is chaos... huh... that's the big one that's got me thinking :P God still have power over demons :P Jesus told them to come out all the time"

"Yes, but I don't think His presence is there... Do you?"

"no definitely not That's one of the reasons it's so bad, the complete lack of God is the most horrible thing that could happen"

"Well, then that's my definition of chaos.  It's not necessarily absence of order, it's more darkness and depravity"

"So then, maybe chaos doesn't exist on this world?"

"Not in it's true form... I think we can get tastes of it
I think in general the word is overused, but it does exist"

  I just went and applied at the WB, (a small store near our house) today.  I doubt I'll get the job because they've only had the sign outside their store one day and they've already got about fifty applications.  But, they do know me, which is in my favor.  But on the other hand I'm not even sure I want to job...  I would have to work Wednesday nights, which means I would have to give up choir...  I really really hate that idea...  I know that choir isn't the biggest or most important thing, but it is very important to me.  I'm also not sure that I would be able to play softball this year, which would be really rotten too.  I really really need a job though.  If I could work anywhere I wanted I would choose Exodus.  It would be the coolest most awesome place to work...  The other thing about working at the WB would be that I would be alone at night in that store and a lot of really creepy people go there.  But in the summer it won't get dark so late.  :P Oh, well, I probably won't get the job and I'll go look at the mall again next month.  I would like to work at the mall because then I would be on top of all the good deals, so I could get stuff cheap, then wait a while and sell it for more on Ebay.  :)  I wish I didn't need a job at all though...  That would be so much nicer. 

  Anyways, I would like some prayer that something will work out soon... 

  I'm going to spend the night at my Grandma's today along with all the other girls. 

  Oh, and if you buy something off of the amazon ads I have on my sidebar I will get money!  So :D Yeah, if you want to get something from amazon please keep that in mind.  If I could find a way to generate enough money at home that would be so awesome!  I want to sew a bunch and sell dresses and stuff online.  I would looove it if I could do that.  :)

  Anyhow, my Grandma's here now, so I need to go.  :)

  Love ya!

  Shayleen

  I am a boring person.  Gah.  I have nothing interesting to say.  Gah.

  Today Forrest, Elisa, and I went ice skating with some other people from Church.  It was a lot of fun, but now my ankles and toes hurt. :P   

Last year I kept a list of all the books I read...

Daddy Long Legs - Jean Webster

Endless Night - Agatha Christie

Postern of Fate - Agatha Christie

Caribbean Mystery - Agatha Christie

Sunset at Blandings - P. G. Wodehouse

The Plot That Thickened - P. G. Wodehouse

The Labors of Hercules - Agatha Christie

Jane of Lantern Hill - L. M. Montgomery

Cocktail Time - P. G. Wodehouse

The Great Divorce - C. S. Lewis

The City of Gold and Lead - John Christopher

Madam Prime Minister - A Biography of Margeret Thatcher - Libby Hughes

What's So Great About Christianity - Dinesh D'Souza - Forrest and I are thinking about doing a book club with this book.  It's very good. :)

On Writing Well-The Classic Guide to Writing Nonfiction - William Zinsser - Best book on writing I've ever read!  I've read it many many times...

Funerals Are Fatal - Agatha Christie

Black Coffee - Agatha Christie

Getting America Right - Edwin J. Fueller and Dough Wilson

Evaluating Books-What Would Thomas Jefferson Think About This? - Richard J. Maybury

Mrs. McGinty's Dead - Agatha Christie

The Mystery of the Blue Train - Agatha Christie

Mr. Parker Pyne: Detective - Agatha Christie

From Hope to Higher Ground - Mike Huckabee

Murder on the Links - Agatha Christie

The Golden Ball and Other Stories - Agatha Christie - This is probably my favorite Agatha Christie...

The Regatta Mystery and Other Stories - Agatha Christie

The Best Things in Life - Peter Kreeft - These books are very interesting, Peter Kreeft is good at putting things in a way that makes them very clear and simple.

Till We Have Faces - C. S. Lewis

I Kissed Dating Goodbye - Joshua Harris

The Princess Bride - William Goldman - <3

Eats, Shoots and Leaves - Lynne Truss

Condi-The Life of a Steel Magnolia - Mary Beth Brown

Between Heaven and Hell - Peter Kreeft

God King - Joanne Williamson

The Minister's Restoration - George MacDonald - This one was very good too. :)

Watership Down - Richard Adams

Mansfield Park - Jane Austen

Enslaved By Ducks - Rob Farte

For Young Women Only - Shanti Faldhahm and Lisa A Rice

Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen

Brisinger - Christopher Paolini

The Courtship of Princess Leia - Dave Wolverton - One of my first Sci-fi books ever

Hand of Providence: The Strong and Quiet Faith of Ronald Reagan - Mary Beth Brown

The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald - really really really really really weird......

Do Hard Things - Joshua and brett Harris

So Far From the Bamboo Grove - Yoko Kawashima Watkins

The Fellowship of the Ring - J. R. R. Tolkien

The Fairies Return - Gail Carson Levine

The Two Towers - J. R. R. Tolkien

The Return of the King - J. R. R. Tolkien

Twilight - Stephanie Meyer - I actually really enjoyed these.  :D

Crocodile on the Sandbank - Elizabeth Peters

The Curse of the Pharoahs - Elizabeth Peters

The Snake, the Crocodile, and the Dog - Elizabeth Peters

Frankenstein - Mary Shelley

New Moon - Stephanie Meyer

Eclipse - Stephanie Meyer

Breaking Dawn - Stephanie Meyer

Tales of Hardship and Endurance - L. M. Montgomery

Ghost Stories - L. M. Montgomery

After Many Days - L. M. Montgomery

To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee

Passion and Purity - Elisabeth Elliot - Highly recommend

The Book of the Dun Cow - Walter Wangerin Jr. - I cried... :P

The Sorcerer's Stone - J. K. Rowling

The Mummy's Case - Elizabeth Peters

Emily's Quest - L. M. Montgomery

The Blue Castle - L. M. Montgomery

Across the Miles - L. M. Montgomery

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - J. K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - J. K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - J. K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix - J. K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince - J. K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - J. K. Rowling

Love y'all :)

Shay

  I'm feeling very discouraged and tired right now...  I didn't get the Pumpkin Patch job because I didn't have enough retail experience...  I need a job to get retail experience, I need retail experience to get a job.  I need a job to get a car, I need a car to get a job.  I need a job to get money, I need money to get a job.... !!!  I am so frustrated! 

  I want to get a condo and share it with Forrest.  A girl friend and I can have one half and Forrest and one of his guy friends can have the other half.  I don't want to rent though.  I feel like renting would just be dumping money into a black hole.  So I need to get a down payment and get my credit up.  It's a kind of a farfetched plan, but I don't think it's unnatainable...

   I really like this video right now.  :)  It makes me happy, and I think this girl would have made a better Bella than Bella did.  :P

Swagbucks is a search engine like google.  But when you use it you can earn points.  For example, I just searched "Minimum wage in Oregon" and got four swagbucks.  You can redeem them for prizes and cool things.  And if you let us be your refferer then whenever you get a point we would get a point too.  Which would be awesome. :D  Then you can reffer people and get points from them and so on.  It's really cool.  :D

  OH MY GOSH I AM SO SAD!!! :'(   We recently watched the very last Doctor Who with David Tennant as the Doctor...  *sniff sniff* 

  Great sadness and mourning throughout the land.  David Tennant was the all time best ever Doctor.  I cried so hard at the last couple episodes...  Not that that's anything ubt anyone could ever live up to his standard.  It's sooo sad...  :'(  I think he combined the three other best Doctors, Tom Baker, Peter Davidson, and Christopher Eccelston.  Ugh I'm watching old David Tennant episodes... so sad... :'(

  Please pray that I'll find a job very soon.....

Love, Shay