Hello everyone again

Well, I must say, very interesting comments, thank you very much for your opinions.

This is an apology to all of the bloggers I offended or hurt. (As I said in the beginning and the end of my blog though, please don't take offence, in was not meants it that way. )

Dear Blogger,

I apologize for whatever I said that has hurt you in any way. That was not my intention, as I'm sure yours were not with some hurtful things you said to JocelynDixon on her blog. (Yes, I do read comments)

I am sorry that I offended you with what I said. It is only my opinion in this great big, beautiful world. Perhaps I could have stated my opinions differently, and I apologize I did not.

Though one thing I will not change, my strong feeling that yes, I (hopefully) will get married, and become a loving wife. I will raise our children to the best of my abilities. I will stay home and take care of our children.

I was only saying (I'm sorry if I didn't say it in the correct way) that I don't see why women cannot pursue a carreer or stay single. If men can stay single and it is not bad, then women should be able to as well. We should have every same right as a man, because, yes, I believe we are equal.

I am sorry for any hurtful or offensive things I might have said. I do hope you will not hate me for all eternity.

Sincerely with regret for anything offensive,

Rosie Cotton

With this said, I will be leaving the blog world. (I'm not much of a blogger I suppose) :P

So long and farewell to all!

~Rosie Cotton

Thanks for taking your time to reply to my blog once again, I appreciate every single opinion as each opinion is different and by me respected.

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Sorry you're leaving. I hope we didn't offend you. The problem with posting something like that on HSB is that your going to get swamped with a bunch of people disagreeing. If you went to feminine rights blog and posted there I'm sure you would get a lot of people to agree with you. Anyway sorry that your leaving... Blogboy
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Don't leave. I just came upon this blog and you really should stick around. You have something to contribute just like everyone else and we can all respect your opinions. If you do read this, I wanted to comment on what you said about Harry Potter. I personally think that Harry Potter is bad, and I used to think LOTR was bad. I have not personally read HP, but I know enough people who have that it isn't really necessary. In LOTR, what Tolkien essentially did is he created an entire new world. Therefore, what is referred to as magic in that world really has no connection to this world. This is not the case in HP. Plus, while Tolkien uses the word "magic", it is clear by reading his personal writings that he wasn't intending for it to be literal magic. Its more like a sort of superpower. Plus, Gandalf is only called a wizard, when in fact he really isn't one at all. This is explained in The Silmarillion. And in The Fellowship of the Ring, Galadriel makes it clear that the hobbits are confusing things by referring to magic. I hope that helps answer some of your questions. :-) ~Timothy

PoorBoyHat at 11:38 PM, Mar. 9, 2007

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Hi Rosie

I am Jocelyn's Mom. I have read all of the comments, your posts as well as hers, and I can honestly say you have a place here at HSB. -Whether you really *are* "much of a blogger" or not. I will tell you that Jocelyn holds this whole topic very near and dear to her heart, and has received many stronger, disagreeing comments- and even a couple of emails about her keeper-at-home posts than the ones you received! She read your post and wrote a long response, but knew she did not want to break fellowship with you or hurt your feelings or offend you. So, she didn't post it. She just put in a blurb on her post to give her opinion and wisdom on it. She wasn't trying to rally anyone to comment on your blog. I know this, because we had some discussion about it before she decided not to post it. She did, hoever, want to help you to see the truth of God's Word, which we *all* need, often. I know she sometimes may come off as thinking she knows and *you* don't, but, she is really just stating her convictions and wants desperately to let young girls know that there is a better way than you will hear in everyday media and culture. I, as a blogger, not as her Mom, hope you will reconsider leaving your blogging. If you want to take time and think about it, fine, but: this, too, shall pass, and God will move in your heart to post other things. I commend you for posting it in the first place, as you did, in your title, say that these were things you were thinking about. If these reasons aren't good enough - then, consider the fact that you got *a lot* of responses to this deep thought you were having done in scriptural and loving manners to love you along in your walk. I know I am the 2nd adult to comment. I respect what each of the commenters on this topic have said, because I think it was all well-thought out and truly done in love. No one wants to hurt you or have you leave! Please re-consider! You are a lovely young lady, and God has a plan for your life! Please let these wonderful young Believers be a part of that plan. If your feelings are hurt, it's ok to say that. We ALL need to grow, even us Commenters! Be Blessed! Mrs. Dixon Edited by JacqueDixonSoulRestES on Mar. 10, 2007 at 10:32 AM

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Hey Rosie! I was just reading Jocelyn's blog, and she mentioned this. What I have to say is, the original purpose of the woman starts at the beginning of the world. Eve was created for Adam - not Adam for Eve. So therefore, we're still, since the beginning, supposed to be under authority of the man in some way. God does make exceptions for certain women it seems, but we cannot destroy our original purposes. This is the modern thought of a "feminist", making it seem like women can't pursue any dreams. That is very untrue - look at all the women today. I'd say it's harder to be a MAN than a woman, because it seems that women get a way with practically too much. LOL! Sorry, I just thought that was an interesting thing...Like, women can be in sports, and have all these jobs and not get a weird look about them, but if a man started doing them...Yeah...Sorry, that's just my opinion... ~Rachel

LadyRachel at 11:29 AM, Mar. 10, 2007

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I believe I need to apologize for sounding a bit harsh earlier. I'm just a bit sensitive when it comes to "K.A.H." (keeper at home) discussions. I wasn't trying to judge you, but I tend to do that when I feel a bit offended. I hope you don't leave HB completely because of what we have done and said. I think we all needed to think before we wrote things. It's so easy to say too much, isn't it? WELL, GOD BLESS, ~Rachel~

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Well, Rosie, I want to tell you that I understand everything you've said on this topic. It is all just, and right and true- in the world's eyes. The problem here is that most of these HSB bloggers aren't of the world, they have the sweet, saving Grace of Jesus Christ on their side instead and they are following the commandments that God has given them- not because they believe it is the way to Salvation but simply out of gratitude to their loving Father who has rescued them from the doom of sin, hell and a meaningless life and placed them in His Kingdom of Love for Eternity. From what I know of you, sweet Rosie, you have NOT accepted Jesus Christ as your King and God and Saviour and Close Friend. Until you do this, neither I, nor any other born-again Christian, can argue with you about this. Just remember sweet Rosie, when the King and Saviour returns, you are going to want to be on His side of the Last Battle. Much Love and Prayers, An Anonymous Reader

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~ Appreciable Apology...~

That was a thoughtful post. I have no intentions of dragging out a conflict of any sort that has already been resolved, but I have been intrigued by the recent debate over the issue of womanhood that is by no means new. In case there are some people that are in genuine confusion over the position of women in the home and in society, I would like to present an in depth analysis on the topic. The more I study about the worldviews and history that have constructed out current culture, the more it is impressed upon me that women, for some bizarre reason, must be "philosophically challenged" in the pure and simple issue of maintaining order and purpose. Do not mis-read me, however. I am not looking towards any sort of elite intellectual argumentative policy by any means. It is just that common sense and practicality have become ignored to such an extent in our society that people are having to analyze their way back to home base. Though I certainly maintain that in all fields it requires the seal of the HOLY SPIRIT to ultimately convince a person of the truth, it remains quite significant that, as in science, basic common sense and logic will doubtless point your mind in the correct direction. Since the BIBLE has more than enough evidence in its favor as the absolute, inerrant and perfect WORD of GOD, and that indeed JESUS is the WORD made flesh, I will shamelessly use SCRIPTURE references as the foundation for my views. ~ ~ ~ "I believe we can share responsibilities and chores, together, as human beings! Not as separate 'males' and 'females' but as human beings who love and have enough respect for each other to be treated just as well as any other person out there! We women are more than worthy to be treated as an equal!" If you read Plato's Republic, you will find that the Greek philosophers brought up the exact same point. They found themselves all befuddled over the fact that women were not necessarily intellectually inferior to men by any means, yet they were always expected to remain uninvolved in politics and the workforce. They began to imagine a plan for letting women out of the home and empowering them alongside men in areas of society that were originally unbecoming to them. They suddenly ran into a problem. "If there are no women at home to raise the children," they asked themselves, "then how should they be cared for?" They decided that public institutions (schools) would be the best solution, with people hired to fulfil what was originally supposed to be balanced between the man and the woman at home. This is where the Clinton term, "It takes a village to raise a child" originates. It is the Greco-Roman imbalance that has infiltrated our Western World. The issue of "equality" has become ridiculously inflated. The issue of the differences between men and women has nothing at all to do with equality. They were created equally valuable {I Corinthians 11:11} and in GOD's image {Genesis 1:27; Genesis 5:1-2}. After the fall, they became equally sinful {Romans 4:23}. Woman was created as an equally intelligent match for man - neither as his master or slave, but as his helper {Genesis 2:18}. A person can share "equality" with another without having to be exactly the same. The following equations make sense: Man = Human made in the image of GOD Woman = Human made in the image of GOD This formula, however, does not: Woman = Man If men and women were EXACTLY equal in EVERY way, then they would not be two separate genders. Remember: Man and Woman, Masculine and Feminine, Manly and Womanly are all antonyms in the dictionary. "Let me show it to you this way. Do you, as a White/African-American/Asian/Hispanic or any other race, feel you are better than any other race out there, simply by your color? No, probably not. Because that is wrong! Just like slavery is wrong. That's why it was cast out! We see someone with different color skin, and we don't think anything about it! Though, as soon as a man (not all mind you) sees a woman, he thinks, 'She is below me! I can tell her what to do and she'll do it! This is awesome! I can sit on my lazy *** all day and not do a thing!' That is proposterous!" Was this a reference to Islam? If so, then I can understand the dilemma. The Q‛uran does, in fact, say that a woman is a man's property and that he has the right to beat her and that her only purpose is for their reproduction. But in regards to Christianity, no no no - that description is entirely misleading. The BIBLE states nothing about a woman being an oppressed slave anymore than it says that JESUS was an oppressed slave. The difference between men and women should also not be compared to that of the variations in "racial characteristics" (of course, there is really only one race - the human race - the terms for other "races" are often just used for visual description). The differences between men and women exist universally, regardless of "race". The Hebrew word for man is "Ish", and the Hebrew word for woman is "Ishshah", meaning "out of man", a reference to her creation. The title of "Woman", as explained by Nancy Campbell, frankly means "womb-man", which describes her feminine function and essence, a quality set apart chiefly for her, making her different from the man. Generally speaking, under natural conditions, the adult woman is shorter than the adult man. Her physique is also generally in sharp contrast to the man. Also generally speaking, her voice is sharply contrasted to that of the man's voice. Her entire stature and form indicate necessary difference. It is apparent that though her mental capabilities are not inferior to man in the least, she is still physically, biologically and literally a different type of mankind. "Tell me, do you favor a male dog over a female dog? Do you appreciate a male cow more than a female cow? I don't think you do. A dog is cute and equal no matter what it's gender, right? A female cow is more useful than a male, a female can produce milk, and male cannot! It's just the cold hard facts, correct? Yes." The differences between men and women, just as the differences between most anything, indicate that each have suitabilities to different positions. This has nothing to do with prejudice. It has only to do with practicality. Since animals are not created in GOD's image, the comparison in that statement sounded somewhat silly. However, if you insist, allow me to share my poultry expertise to illustrate an important point. Under natural conditions, the male and female chickens, rooster and hen respectively, have equally important and necessary positions. The rooster, being notably larger and stronger than the hen, is entrusted with the role of protecting the hen and guarding the flock's territory. The hen, of smaller and daintier build, lays the eggs and raises the chicks. The rooster struts and crows, and believe it or not, the hen can do the same. But she has no time or need to exhibit such masculine qualities, and under natural, healthy situations never usurps the cock's position. However, even I myself have witnessed shades of the dismal results of the unusual occurence of "hen madness". It is when she suddenly abandons the nest, refuses to lay, begins squawking, crowing and strutting obnoxiously. Even in her feathering she begins to don the male clothing of the rooster. What does this make her? An improvement of sorts? More powerful or free or equal to the rooster in any way? No - she is instead a freak of nature and a useless disgrace that loses her head quickly on a farm. It isn't that there is necessarily anything wrong with crowing or strutting, but it really isn't the hen's job. Simple conclusion: If a farmer needs something that looks and acts like a rooster, he gets a rooster - NOT a hen that acts like one. Women really have no place in competing with men over roles. "So, is a man above a woman? Should a man be able to tell a woman, "Hey, go do this." and the woman silently obeys? I believe not. Do you want to know why? Because every person is equal. No one should have to go around saying, "Yes, sir, I'll do it because you told me to." No! That should not be how it is! What is even more disturbing to me, is how some women do not understand that, in reality, when they sign on to be a wife to a man like this, they are saying, "Hello, my name is _________. I would like to be your doormat for the rest of my life and let you walk all over me and take advantage of me!" It's the sad truth." Have you ever read Elsie Dinsmore? Even better, have you read the books of Esther and Ruth? Have you ever read the Gospels in reference to the character of Mary? I highly recommend all of that literature. "Submission" is not being forced into any sort of slavery. Rather, it is volunteering to honor and respect the will of GOD and your father or husband over your own will. It is casting off the selfish nature and thus balancing order and purpose - the woman becomes the Queen, the pillar of the temple (the home), the irreplaceable support to uphold the family and accomplish the LORD's will through the man's headship. Think about how Sarah was honored in the BIBLE for obeying Abraham {1 Peter 3:6}. Even though Abraham did make mistakes, her submissive character towards him was pleasing to GOD and she was rewarded. If a woman is truly seeking to glorify GOD in her actions and obeys SCRIPTURE, where can she go wrong? You cannot challenge the WORD of GOD. Besides, we don't need to {Proverbs 30:5, Psalm 12:6, 18:30}. By the way, the relationship between husband and wife is not to be confused with that of the relationship between father and child. Time would fail me to point out the list of examples. "As I see it. When a woman lets herself be taken advantage like this, you are submitting yourself to this: Being a housekeeper, a cook, and a nanny. (When you have children) Though, do you get paid for this? No. Plus, big bonus for the man! He get's to have sex with you as well! What better thing could he ask for? This is just a big bundle package perfect for him! But is it for you? Do all you women out there want to be put at a man's feet just because you are a woman? I will not have this happen to me. I will not be a doormat. I will stand up for myself and every other woman out there who deserves to be treated as an equal! Because we are!" As I have been researching for the script I am writing, I have had to study the history of the late Victorian - early Edwardian eras. It turns out that after the American Civil War, the Industrial Revolution took hold. With that came extraordinary advances in industry, some of which, unfortunately, had little benefit to family lifestyle. Family farms and homesteads began to fade away as more and more people became impressed with and dependent upon city society. A time came when men were occupied away from home far more frequently, food was conveniently bought at the store, and each household had cooks, maids and nannies. There is nothing wrong with a little household help. Cleaning the house is not the only thing wives are good for. But... Poor wives and mothers! They had nothing left to do! They didn't even have any blogs to write on ;D. They must have become bored out of their minds. Shortly afterward, they apparently thought that men were having all the fun. Then it was time for them to fight for their "rights". It looked like Plato's Republic was becoming a reality after all. Now, I wouldn't condemn everything that some of women of the era stood for (Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony, Anna Kelton Wiley, etc.). However, some who took everything in a desperate scream of "Women's Liberation" opened up quite a mess. Gradually, as you can see from the last century until now, women became exploited because of the irresponsibility of both men and women. According to Jennifer J. Lamp's His Chosen Bride: "The 'liberation' of women and their entry into the workforce were to have brought fulfillment, yet, as the report showed, most are less fulfilled now than before. Therapist, counselors, and Prozac are in great demand. Why? Because we are fighting against GOD's design for women. GOD gave us the privilege of being the heart of our homes, our cities, our nation. This means we have the opportunity to nourish and strengthen, to set the very atmosphere of our surroundings, spreading encouragement, blessing and cheer. Yet our kind has rejected that role, wanting rather to be the head." Again she mentions: "As feminism seeks to exalt women, it does exactly the opposite. For it is actually rooted in 'misogyny', the hatred of women. Feminism is not simply the 'advancement of women', it is seeking to nullify them. In making women 'equal' with men, they are at once implying that being a woman is of no value, and we must push ourselves up to this 'heightened position'." Do you not believe her? Then read what feminist Naomi Goldenberg said: "All feminists are making the world less and less like the one described in the BIBLE and are thus helping to lessen the influence of CHRIST and YAHWEH on humanity...'GOD is going to change' I thought. 'We women are going to bring an end to GOD. As we take positions in government, in medicine, in law, in business, in the arts and finally, in religion, we will be the end of HIM. We will change the world so much that HE won't fit in anymore.'...The feminist movement in Western culture is engaged in the slow execution of CHRIST and YAHWEH. Yet very few of the women and men now working for sexual equality within Christianity and Judaism realize the extent of their heresy." There is nothing wrong with women successfully bringing in income {remember Proverbs 31} or having certain occupations {i.e, midwives, artists, writers...}. However, a Queen must not abandon her position for the sake of seeking her own selfish desires for "independence". She must have her dreams and desires centered around CHRIST, so that everything in which she wills to do is in accordance to with HIS will. The LORD can do amazing things in a genuine, godly woman's life, no matter what her situation. If she feels some calling to a specific dream, she must lift it up to HIM first, and through selfless passion live up to HIS WORD. On one last note... Criticism is not the same as defamation. Jocelyn Dixon, like me and many other bloggers, is a writer. That might sound odd at first, as technically everyone who writes something is a writer. But when saying "writer", I mean someone that is very sincere and dedicated to the skill and profession. It becomes a natural tendency to take every issue on our hearts, minds and in the world and place it in articulate scripting, thus seizing every opportunity to describe and portray, whether it be an essay, screenplay, stageplay or novel. If you happen to be noticed by a writer, don't be surprised if you get written about. Yes, we have to guard our lips and not be careless and hurtful with words, but please be kindly patient with us and try not to be easily offended. :) I hope my typos are seldom... Take care and MAY GOD BLESS, ~Amanda~ Edited by SincerelyAmanda on Mar. 11, 2007 at 12:13 PM

SincerelyAmanda at 1:12 PM, Mar. 11, 2007

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Rosie...

I emailed you, incase you didn't get it. I hope you will reconsder leaving. It would be a terrible thing for you to just leave. I am very sorry if I embarassed you in any way. That was not my intention. You are still young, as I am, and still have far to go. Will you please stick around so I can be a part of your life? I love you very much! Love, Jocelyn
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Hi Rosie, Well, I see that this comment is a little late, but I came across your post today and felt that I should say something. I know it is hard to face so much commentaric opposition, (is that a word?) and though, personally, I wouldn't consider being a KAH exactly a doormat job, you are certainly correct in what you said about women being obliged to marry. Women should definitely not be obliged to marry if they do not want to. They do not need to seek out a husband and though marriage is a beautiful thing, it is certainly voluntary and not required. If no one comes your way, and you feel that you were meant to lead a single life, that is fine. Legolas Edited by Ringbearer on Apr. 6, 2007 at 5:59 AM

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