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• Feb. 23, 2006 - Doomed to Failure

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Our homeschool support group had a meeting tonight and for a change we met at a nice restaurant.  It was a pleasant evening, but really, I like the usual meetings better.  With the background music (big band era) and soft spoken women I had a hard time hearing everything. 

 

One mom brought up an interesting question.  She has two teenage daughters who want to go to public school.  She does not want them to go, of course, and she wondered if any of the rest of us had teens who loved homeschooling and might be willing to tell her daughters why they have no desire to go to public school.  So, our next months meeting is going to be a panel of teens who enjoy being homeschooled, and parents who have children who are begging to go to school can come to this meeting and hear their peers contending for home education. 

 

I think it's a good idea but part of me wonders, will the teens that come to listen, be willing to listen?  Where did they get the idea that going to public school was an option and why are they considering it?  My own children know that there is no option.  They don't hang around to many public school children and definitly not on a regular basis.  My children have expressed that they are very glad that they don't go to public school.  They are not being influenced by the diseased culture of public education. 

 

Isn't somewhere, at the bottom of it all, the problem more in a lack of authority?  Aren't teens who express the idea of wanting to go to public school saying that they don't agree with what their parents have set as what is best for them?  The desires to go to public school are seldom of an academic nature.  They want to go back for selfish reasons, and because of that they will wind up in trouble. 

 

I'm not saying that all students who were once homeschooled and then go to public school will have problems.  Some of these students were prepared for the eventuality, for instance going to high school, but it had always been the parents decision.  Some of those teens may not like the idea of going to public school, but it is what their parents decided to be best for them, and they are willing to subject themselves to their parents authority. 

 

When I hear a parent say, "Johnny wants to go back to public school.  I can't force him to stay home, it would only make him angry if I did."  It makes me wonder, "Who's in charge here?"  Obviously not the parent because if your child is going to be angry over a decision you make in their best interest, then you never had control of them to begin with. 

 

We aren't talking about just a little child being mad over not getting their way.  That passes and is soon forgotten if a parent trains them correctly.  These parents are more concerned about ANGER, and they don't want their child ANGRY with them.  These teens hold anger as the key to their desires.  They are the ones in charge.  Their parents handed over their authority on a silver platter.  That kind of homeschool is doomed to failure anyway. 

 

 




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• Feb. 24, 2006 - why

Posted by Deeonly1
I would want to know why. I don't think it is a bad thing for a teen that is at an age where they need and want to be thinking about their future and making their own choices to want something and ask. What I am saying is when my son wanted to go to PS I asked why. The main reason is they have the tech center and a good engineering program. They now have an aircraft program. He will be getting his A license from an A&P and possibility the P or at least some of the required training for the P. This will help him get the job he wants working on aircrafts. It will pay a lot more than most jobs kids get out of HS. He can then use that to go to college. Anyway he had this all laid out. We talked about the negative of PS. Anyway what I was saying is it is important that our children also feel comfortable in coming to us with educated and prepared 'debates' and presentations. Parents can also look into what options there are in meeting whatever the reasons they give. I just talked to a parent whose daughter went t HS after home schooled and ended out going part time and part-time to the college. The college courses counted toward the HS credits and she got her HS diploma. Anyway, maybe those kids can also give their reasons.
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• Feb. 24, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by sagerats
Deeonly1 brings up a good point. Your child came to you with intelligent questions and answers. Most parents I have heard speak this way do not have children that do this. Their children feel that they are "missing out on all the fun." They want the experience of hanging out, chit chatting with friends all day long, and being out from under their parents thumb. As I said, purely selfish reasons. They are whining and complaining, not discussing anything. They want socialization, not acadamics.

The other point is, if you had decided no, would your son have been angry with you? Were you worried that he would be angry with you?

For my family, there is no good reason to go to public school that would outweigh the bad that happens there. We discuss many things about their future, and all the options to get there. They talk to me about more things than I really have a desire to know, (the consistency of every bowel movement for instance)

If a parent is really talking with their children anyway, they will already know what it is that their children are wanting to do, that is if the child himself even knows. Most parents then work to help their child meet their goal, or discuss with them why this may not be the best choice.

You are talking academics, many other parents are looking at children who will rebel if they don't get their way. What they don't realize is that their children are already rebelling, and once that child is in public school they will lose them completely.
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• Feb. 24, 2006 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Kristal
hmm I would have to agree that there is something wrong with the way the are "training" their children. And I had a few friends in high school that were homeschooled up until that point and NOT one of them did ok. They made friends fast and all but they got in HORRIBLE troulbe. I think 2 of thelm ended up pregnante.
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• Feb. 28, 2006 - I've always said...

Posted by Confessor
(to my kids) that I'm willing to accept their anger if they're willing to accept the consequences.

Sometimes, much like us and God, the things we do for our children's welfare isn't always popular with them. However, since I'm not running a popularity contest, I'm okay with that.
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• Mar. 1, 2006 - hi!

Posted by Kekoa
Hi mom I like your blog!
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