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• May. 30, 2008 - Why We Chose Teaching Textbooks

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The big brown truck pulled up in front of our house the other day with our first shipment of 2008-2009 school materials. Teaching Textbooks for 7th grade

and Algebra I arrived! 

This is a major change for us.  We had been using A Beka since the beginning of time.  I loved their beginning math.  However we were getting worn down.  I finally freed myself this past year to only do a portion of all the daily lessons.  Honestly, this must be designed for math whizzes who live in math.  Also I had to tell the dc not to worry about the tougher concepts, many of which I never ran across even though I took precalculus in college.  There seems to be different levels of A Beka math.  Grades K-3 are cute and colorful.  Loved them.  Grades 4-6 lose the color on the tests and quizzes.  That was heartbreaking to dd and I.  Then Grade 7 was a shocker.  I was so confused. The entire layout changed.  It was difficult to determine where one lesson began and another ended.  Also I had to buy yet a separate book for the in depth answers to word problems.  They used to be at the back of the 1-3 level books.  Then I noticed I had no in depth answers to the tests.  We were fine with the mere answers in the separately purchased teacher's key, but if we were stuck, there was no explanation to how to get the answer.  Grade 8 was no better.  I could see the writing on the wall.  I started listening in to all the high school math banter at one of my yahoo groups.  I had learned about the wonder of Math U See.  I had used many of the same manipulatives with my children when they were younger.  I worried we might be too old to pick up an entirely new way of doing math.  Besides, my dc were never fans of using manipulatives.  I did order a free sample of Math U See about 2 years ago and have yet to recieve it and in my search forgot all about it.  

Next year dd starts Algebra I and I was deeply concerned.  I felt this was a matter of prayer to consider all the options.  DH is good at math, but not structured and he'll never make the time to teach the dc.  I am no math whiz.  I  confess I detest math.  I could probably learn to enjoy it, if only I had made time to add the daily A Beka math lessons to my overly full schedule.  Then I could probably really pick it up.  But I was feeling swamped.  We were considering that I would study math daily with dd and if I got stuck I would go to dh.  Yet, I didn't feel a peace about this.

I've heard of Video Text, the mother of all high school math programs.  Well, the dc do not enjoy math nor do they plan to major in it in college.  VT seems to be the program of choice for math bound majors because it is so intense.  I didn't seem to be a good fit for us.  I went through each curriculum and only one seemed to offer hope:  Teaching Textbooks.

Teaching Textbooks has a reputation for the reluctant math learner, engaging them in a simplified way so that they grasp the math concept.  The huge selling point for me was that through all the CDs, I'd have a math tutor whenever he was needed.  The student pops in a CD to learn the lesson.  One of the Sabouri brothers explains the lesson while a pencil is seen moving across the page.  I chose a lesson I had vague memories from in Alegebra I.  (There are samples on their site.)  Wow!  By the time it was done, I felt as if I understood it better now than I did before.  Then the student does the work in the book, then she checks her work against the answer key.  Any she gets wrong she needs to correct.  If she can't figure it out, she can pop a solutions CD in the computer and select the problem she missed.  Then one of the Sabouri brothers explains how that is done.  

One of the arguments against Teaching Textbooks is that it's not in depth enough, doesn't prepare a student for the SAT or college.  I've heard some moms say they are just glad their child can at least solidify the basic concepts instead of being overwhelmed and moving too fast.  This is how I was leaning.  I did a little research and found reviews of kids who used TT and maxed the math portion of the SAT and did just fine in college math.  I've heard moms say the opposite.  I think this tells me it is not the fault of the program but that some students did not retain information.  That can happen with any program.  

When we went to our homeschool bookfair, we went to the Teaching Textbooks booth and got to interact with everything as well as talk to some of the moms.  One mom said they used to use Math U See and loved it!  Then they got to Algebra I and she was going nuts trying to figure out the concepts.  That's when they discovered Teaching Textbooks.  Her oldest has whizzed through math and has not needed to use all the CDs.  He did well on the SAT and his friend, who used TT, maxed the SAT.  The younger dds of this lady have not enjoyed math until they got TT.  It's been a wonderful fit for the family. 

Although my primary concern was dd entering Algebra I, in the back of my mind I was concerned about ds entering Math 7.  He does an excellent job with math but detests it so much that he will spend hours day dreaming and has a really negative attitude about it.  But if we are playing board games and he's keeping score he can beat any of us.  I have minimized his math work in A Beka but it doesn't matter how little I give him, he just labors over it.  So I had thoughts of getting TT for him too. 

TT has a different approach to Math 7 and below.  All the work is done on the computer. The student pops in the CD, listens to the lesson and is then given sample problems to practice.  The student then does these on a sheet of paper and enters the answer.  After 3 errors it will explain the concept.  There are also selectable characters to interact with the student.  One was a robot and another was an animal.  DS played with this while I talked to the ladies.  I watched him at one point.  He was given two numbers to subtract, both 6 digits long.  There were several numbers to carry.  I watched ds compute everything in his head and get the correct answer!  Why can't he do this on a sheet of A Beka paper????  Boys and their toys!  There was also a record keeper built in for the teacher to keep check with the student's progress. This might be what we need to get over the hump.

After this we went to the next table, the A Beka table and looked at their algebra I book.  Oh my goodness, I saw things in that book which looked like another language.  However when I looked through the TT algebra, it had every useful topic that a student needs to learn higher math, prepare for SAT and daily applications.  A good math teacher can weed through A Beka math and pull out what is really essential.  I know because I have a very sweet friend whom I met in some of my yahoo groups who gave me lots of encouraging advice last year on how to endure A Beka math.  Now endure is what I have to do.  Not her.  She excels with it because she is a math major and has that wonderful background of knowledge to make A Beka math fit her dc who also excel at math.  I wish we lived next door to each other and perhaps we could have traded off dc for different subjects!  So I don't want to put A Beka in a bad light, because I have friends who use it successfully. But for our needs and limitations, it was looking like TT was the answer to our prayer.   

That night I told dh all about it.  He liked what he heard.  He asked how much it would cost.  gulp  I told him and he said, is that all?  Whew!  Because he excels in math, he understands the expense of hiring a math tutor.  They are pricey.  In college, I was a reading tutor and was upset to learn that my friend made more money that I did because she was a math tutor.  That's discrimination!  But that's the way it is.  Math tutors are expensive. Teaching Textbooks is cheaper.      

   

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• May. 31, 2008 - I've been looking at TT also...

Posted by proverbsmomof3
We have been using Saxon math since we started, and it has gone very well so far, but I've looked over the Algebra book and have my worries. After you've used the program for a while, I'd love to hear how it is working. Saxon has no Geometry course. Good Luck.
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Posted by Anonymous
I'm so glad you have found a curriculum that looks like it will work well for you!! I have heard such good things about TT myself. I hope both your kiddos get off to a great start with it in the fall!

Blessings,
Pam
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• Jun. 11, 2008 - TT

Posted by Lisa
I just wanted to say that I have a friend who went to MIT near Boston, she looked at the TT website for me. checked out the different subjects and there progression. She said to me that Teaching Textbooks isn't for whimps. So I was encouraged by that because I had heard the same thing about TT not being hard enough.
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